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cabmandone 07-31-2019 01:29 PM

Feed it well. Give it plenty of love and I'm sure it will be a loyal friend for years... And I hope it doesn't crap in your yard :D

expatriot98 07-31-2019 01:39 PM

Denis - cool car! I had a 300D in that generation and loved driving it. I applaud how you are diving into it and look forward to watching the progress.

speeder 07-31-2019 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 10542621)
Sweet, Denis. Just enough to do to make it a "project" for guys like you who like that kind of stuff, and enough to do to dissuade guys who don't like to do that kind of stuff, making it attainable for guys who like to do that kind of stuff.

Yep, for a checkbook guy, this wouldn’t work plus they wouldn’t have Rainman working on it. :)

speeder 07-31-2019 02:30 PM

Thanks all, I’ll try to keep up the thread. :)

KFC911 07-31-2019 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10542610)

Listen to the Cabman's advice....nice strays!

Tobra 07-31-2019 05:25 PM

Mom's father had a 1969 280 SE sedan, same livery as that one. God what a great car, pretty sporty for a tank.

javadog 07-31-2019 05:36 PM

I may pick up something to tinker with in the next year, I’ve been thinking about a Benz of that vintage. That was the era that Mercedes first made an impression on me and I still like the styling from those years, I think it’s pretty timeless. I wouldn’t mind knowing a little bit more about the costs and the parts availability. Feel free to elaborate.

herr_oberst 07-31-2019 05:48 PM

If I had that I'd lower it as far as I could practically get away with, but with the biggest tires that would still fit on the stock wheels and those great Merc hubcaps.... Love those shoeboxes.

Nice score. Cute dog.

legion 07-31-2019 05:55 PM

I still miss my 300D. 20 years after I've sold it, it's still the only car that I dream about.

Some day I will pick up another one.

VincentVega 07-31-2019 07:17 PM

Cool car, thanks for posting. Just about all of them have rusted away around here. I grew up working on 113s-124's, love hate thing for me. I hated the slow when I was younger, now I appreciate the build quality. Still some of the design decisions still make me laugh.

speeder 07-31-2019 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10542911)
I may pick up something to tinker with in the next year, I’ve been thinking about a Benz of that vintage. That was the era that Mercedes first made an impression on me and I still like the styling from those years, I think it’s pretty timeless. I wouldn’t mind knowing a little bit more about the costs and the parts availability. Feel free to elaborate.

Normal replacement parts like brake rotors/pads/hoses are as cheap as it gets, like cheaper than Toyota Corolla parts if you know where to buy them. Same w cooling parts and all other normal repair parts. Some dealer parts are even surprisingly cheap. An exception might be the original mechanical fuel pump on my car; it has been bypassed w an electric one and the OG part is NLA unless I go to Mercedes Classic Center. They sell absolutely anything and everything for any old Benz but prices are geared towards very valuable cars being restored. I haven’t checked w them yet but I’m mentally preparing myself for sticker shock.

As for working on them, it’s a complete joy, IMO, pretty simple and analog for the most part. Really well made but not too complicated unless you get into the high-end models like the 300SEL 6.3 w air suspension. The car in this thread is the absolute other end of the model spectrum for MB at the time.

The w108, (280SE/SEL) w stacked headlights is a sweet spot w a bit more luxury and performance but still pretty simple. I’m at your disposal for any info on these cars. :cool:

speeder 07-31-2019 10:45 PM

Brake hoses are around $10 a piece for most older Mercedes:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564641437.jpg

I’m particular about most parts and will only use dealer brake pads or a brand like Textar, an OEM supplier. I think these fronts ran me a whopping $26:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564641610.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564641610.jpg

New hardware was cheap, rears were from dealer and front was aftermarket:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564641727.jpg

The nicest thing about MB parts and working on the cars is that absolutely everything has a part number on it. Even hoses and small vacuum bits like this:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564641833.jpg

Porsche and BMW also do this but no one did it to the extent of MB in the old days. :cool:

berettafan 08-01-2019 02:58 AM

Such great looking cars.

craigster59 08-01-2019 02:03 PM

Just a heads up Denis in case you're interested, there's an estate sale this weekend in Sunland. Lots of tools, car stuff and it looks like there's quite a few Mercedes bits and bobs in there, I see a front grill and some rear lenses. He's even selling a parts car....

https://www.grasons.com/estate-sale/grasons-co-city-of-angels-mostly-mancave-massive-estate-sale-sunland/?fbclid=IwAR2HhAKtgmyCG6TQqa-_MrFEyQixj3AxdzX5aSq3yRWXnJlYasZwpLPSN-Q

speeder 08-01-2019 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 10543903)
Just a heads up Denis in case you're interested, there's an estate sale this weekend in Sunland. Lots of tools, car stuff and it looks like there's quite a few Mercedes bits and bobs in there, I see a front grill and some rear lenses. He's even selling a parts car....

https://www.grasons.com/estate-sale/grasons-co-city-of-angels-mostly-mancave-massive-estate-sale-sunland/?fbclid=IwAR2HhAKtgmyCG6TQqa-_MrFEyQixj3AxdzX5aSq3yRWXnJlYasZwpLPSN-Q

Thanks! I can almost walk to that one. The only thing I’d want is high quality tools but you never know. :)

javadog 08-02-2019 07:18 AM

Care to weigh in on the values of the cars themselves? I know what the "finished" values tend to be, what can you buy them for in a condition like yours? I wouldn't be interested in a car that needs a lot, particularly body repairs, but I'd probably be interested in resurrecting something that hasn't been run in a while. The types of things you are doing are right up my alley.

Also, how many miles does that one have? 42K? 142K?

Feel free to talk about the values of the same vintage (say '68-'72) longer wheelbase Benz's in similar condition. I wouldn't pay stupid money for a mice driver, bigger Benz, but are there any deals out there on those? I figure you know that market, too.

DonDavis 08-03-2019 07:54 AM

That's fantastic. Such a cool car.

I learned to drive in 1967 250S, 4 sp, no a/c.

It looked just like this.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564847660.jpg

speeder 08-03-2019 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10544518)
Care to weigh in on the values of the cars themselves? I know what the "finished" values tend to be, what can you buy them for in a condition like yours? I wouldn't be interested in a car that needs a lot, particularly body repairs, but I'd probably be interested in resurrecting something that hasn't been run in a while. The types of things you are doing are right up my alley.

Also, how many miles does that one have? 42K? 142K?

Feel free to talk about the values of the same vintage (say '68-'72) longer wheelbase Benz's in similar condition. I wouldn't pay stupid money for a mice driver, bigger Benz, but are there any deals out there on those? I figure you know that market, too.

Like all things remotely collectible from the last century, values have risen quite a bit in recent years. What hasn’t changed is the relative value of a 4-door vs. a coupe or convertible and the difference between models but they’ve all tripled or quadrupled. Perfect 3.5 convertibles are now $250k and a pretty nice example of the car I’m working on just fetched $10k on BAT, whereas it use to be a $3k car all day long and 3.5 convertibles in show condition used to be $50-60k. 3.5 coupes, (identical to convertibles other than top), are 1/3 the cost of a rag top.

I actually prefer the sedans, not only because I can afford them but I think they look great and represent what this type of car is supposed to be. A nice w108 sedan that used to be $6-7k tops is now $20k+ but condition is EVERYTHING on these cars. Once they are pickles, they will never be a cucumber again. Of course you know all this and based on what I know about you, you’d only want a really good example. They are old but you look for the same stuff as always, no accidents or rust and nice interiors, etc. :cool:

speeder 08-03-2019 12:43 PM

There is a guy in L.A. who hunts down the cleanest, low mileage, original paint old Mercedes-Benz cars he can find and restores and sells them. He’s well known around town and personally, I can’t stand him but he does have nice cars.

The key to his business model is that he does not repaint or restore worn-out cars, he buys the absolute cleanest examples he can find and then goes to work making them perfect. His background is as a high-end detailer, so he takes them apart and polishes and cleans everything. He’s very good at what he does. He sells them to people w “who cares” money for $30-40k and up. We’re talking 4-door sedans that would go for $8-10k on eBay in normal, mint condition.

Fun to look at the pictures:

Mercedes Motoring - Gallery

speeder 08-03-2019 03:31 PM

Here is a quick update:
 
Did the brake reservoir and fluid, I like to completely drain the system and then clean the res:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564874529.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564874529.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564874529.jpg

Then of course, I already mentioned replacing all of the brake hoses as well as front pads and some new hardware. I always check all of the calipers for leaks and make sure that all pistons retract all the way, (not stuck). This was the easiest vehicle to bleed in my life, I simply filled the reservoir and started opening bleeders. Pumped the pedal w everything closed in the middle to compress pads. I greatly prefer using a clear tube held upwards to watch air escape:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564874978.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564874978.jpg


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