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stealthn 08-06-2019 03:02 PM

Tesla powered 912
 
Now we’re getting somewhere, with Intermeccanica doing EV’s, now this:

https://driving.ca/porsche/auto-news/news/tesla-powered-porsche-912-reimagines-classic-motoring

pwd72s 08-06-2019 03:41 PM

I wonder if it has to be a SWB longnose? Seems to me a '74 912 would be a better candidate.

Tobra 08-06-2019 04:52 PM

no such thing as a '74 912

island911 08-06-2019 05:00 PM

funny, I read it as 76 912E

Good vid.

Jim Richards 08-06-2019 06:46 PM

Dyslexia. ‘67, not ‘76.

Range of 225 km is not terrible for a play car, but 225 miles would obviously be better.

pwd72s 08-06-2019 06:59 PM

my bad...sorry.

sc_rufctr 08-06-2019 07:04 PM

Great but I'd miss that sound of an internal combustion engine. :(

Rawknees'Turbo 08-06-2019 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 10549991)
Great but I'd miss that sound of an internal combustion engine. :(

Even the wheezy farting sounds that 912s make?!?! :)

sc_rufctr 08-06-2019 07:37 PM

"wheezy farting sounds" are great... Just ask my GF ;)

Rawknees'Turbo 08-06-2019 07:46 PM

Ha ha - nice! :D

aigel 08-06-2019 08:42 PM

The nice thing is that they claim it is reversible and it uses a known good base.

The bad thing is that
a) it is a very expensive kit
b) future kits will be significant cheaper (battery cost decrease)
c) future kits will be having higher range (battery density increase)

If I read online information correctly, in the last few years energy density doubled. That means in 5 years this kit likely will get you 300 miles range at lower cost.

How heavy you think it is? Will it at all be toss-able? Will it need spring upgrades?

I recently was at Laguna Seca enjoying a track day. There was a Tesla Model 3 that had obvious suspension and tire work with some big meats. I could not keep up with it in the 993, surprisingly even in turns it was slightly faster ... maybe had slicks (vs. R compounds on the 993.)

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HardDrive 08-06-2019 08:55 PM

Its all out the window. 10 years from now, there will be a 500hp kits on the cheap.

EDIT: Probably sooner.

Evans, Marv 08-06-2019 08:59 PM

Torque????? 4.5K ft. lbs.!!!!!!!!!

sc_rufctr 08-06-2019 09:08 PM

Sure lots of benefits but the converted cars would be significantly heavier than stock so at the very minimum they should have their brakes upgraded.
Probably springs and shocks as well. (I hope the batteries are mounted low down into the chassis)

Then imagine, god forbid you had an accident in one of these...

A vintage car with significant weight added suddenly coming to an abrupt stop! :(

ZOO 08-07-2019 03:52 AM

I like this new direction of hot rodding.

Give me a 60s Cadillac with an EV drivetrain please.

wdfifteen 08-07-2019 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZOO (Post 10550174)
I like this new direction of hot rodding.

Give me a 60s Cadillac with an EV drivetrain please.

Oh yea! A '60s boat with a heavy frame can carry a lot of batteries. A Chevy Impala would even be a good candidate.

john70t 08-07-2019 04:31 PM

Pickup truck or van for me please.

pmax 08-07-2019 07:38 PM

$50k !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

aigel 08-07-2019 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 10550053)
Its all out the window. 10 years from now, there will be a 500hp kits on the cheap.

EDIT: Probably sooner.

Exactly my point.

Look at E-bikes and E-bike kits. You can get a decent E-bike kit for a couple hundred bucks now.

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sc_rufctr 08-07-2019 08:14 PM

Great but you're all forgetting something. EV cars weigh more than a gas guzzler.

Added weight is a big deal. Let's not dismiss it... Burnouts are great but how do they drive?

Jim Richards 08-07-2019 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10551042)
Oh yea! A '60s boat with a heavy frame can carry a lot of batteries. A Chevy Impala would even be a good candidate.

‘66 Impala 2dr coupe FTW

aigel 08-07-2019 09:02 PM

I looked up the Model 3 after the Laguna Seca experience. 3,627 to 4,072 lbs - not bad at all. Current M3: 3,494 to 3,540 lbs

That chassis is built for it. With a lower capacity and only one motor, what do we expect on the 912 kit?

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RWebb 08-07-2019 09:28 PM

they drive like a heavy car with immense torque

at least the newer ones I've driven

the really old EVs (Honda's first Insight & the Gen-2 Prius (1st one imported here)) drive like big golf carts

it'll take a new battery technology to get the wt. down

svandamme 08-07-2019 09:31 PM

let's put battery's in a gasguzzler cause ECOOOOOO
FFWD : BURN OUTS Y'ALLLLLL! WOOOOOOOOOO

ZOO 08-08-2019 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 10551218)
Great but you're all forgetting something. EV cars weigh more than a gas guzzler.

Added weight is a big deal. Let's not dismiss it... Burnouts are great but how do they drive?

My hypothetical E-Caddy isn’t for driving. It’s for cruising . . .

epbrown 08-08-2019 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 10549991)
Great but I'd miss that sound of an internal combustion engine. :(

I'd want to do this to a Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud. Those are quiet already, so this would take it to eerie levels. They're also already torquey and heavy, so an electric drivetrain wouldn't make a big difference as far as driving dynamics.

sc_rufctr 08-08-2019 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epbrown (Post 10551318)
I'd want to do this to a Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud. Those are quiet already, so this would take it to eerie levels. They're also already torquey and heavy, so an electric drivetrain wouldn't make a big difference as far as driving dynamics.

I'm actually seriously considering doing this to a Mercedes W140.
I own a 1992 S420 that's in nice condition but there's an S320 for sale locally with a failed cylinder head.
He's asking $500... The interior and paint are good.

I'm guessing around $25,000 total for parts, batteries, control boxes etc. (probably more $$$)

island911 08-08-2019 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 10550060)
Sure lots of benefits but the converted cars would be significantly heavier than stock so at the very minimum they should have their brakes upgraded.
Probably springs and shocks as well. (I hope the batteries are mounted low down into the chassis)

Then imagine, god forbid you had an accident in one of these...

A vintage car with significant weight added suddenly coming to an abrupt stop! :(

Excellent point. One most won't think about. Perhaps the batteries up front act as a battering ram. Is any room left in the frunk?

Seems to me that the Tesla, Leaf, i3, whatever is the better choice. ... batteries down low, space for stuff, MUCH better crash worthiness.

RWebb 08-08-2019 02:01 PM

lower that Cg

LWJ 08-09-2019 01:32 PM

Ok. That is just cool. Always loved the first gen 912.


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