Asking the unanswer-able: .22 pistol
 

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(a follow up to the "how to shoot better thread)

I've been using a Browning Buckmark, but have been having multiple problems with it not fully discharging the spent shell after shooting and jamming. I've sent it back to Browning for repair and used the ammo they suggested; it still has the same problem.

Is there another make recommended?

How many rounds have been through it? Some of the tighter units need a few/several hundred rounds to function properly.

We have taught a lot of folks to shoot - I have my own pistol/rifle range.

I bought this from on52wheels a long time ago and it has been a complete win: Ruger Single Six in .22. Hefty weight, safe and a revolver, which I think is key. Everyone who has ever shot it loved it.

Trust me.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1565196787.jpg

I've had it for several years as practice piece, so I'm not sure, but it's been a bunch.

Paul, we have one of those too. The kids like dad's High Standard Double Nine a whole lot more. The Double Nine is technically double action but the pull on double action feels like 50# (it is probably only 10-12) so functionally is it single action. Easier to unload and load is what they like.

My S&W 22A does the same thing no matter what I feed it.

Very nice, Flip.

We start with the SS and then move to the Ruger MK II, a 1980’s beast, when they are comfortable.

Again, nice pistols!

Ruger makes a nice semi auto target spoon as well. i know the MkII and MkIII shoot very well.

My Colt Diamondback .22 lr does NOT suck! That probably doesn't help ya though.... good luck :)!

a 1911 in .22 s a great shooter as well with a match barrel, but they can be finicky for the first 500 rounds.

You might want to consider a revolver as has previously been suggested . Two weeks ago I was teaching my 9 year old grandson how to shoot my .22 Ruger stainless steel revolver . He got the hang of it pretty quick , it goes bang every time you pull the trigger and loads/unloads perfectly .

I have this, I have only shot it a few times but haven't had that problem with it. Now I am going to have to go shoot it again and see.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1565206555.jpg

So if a Diamondback ain't in the cards ;)...(awesome in SA/DA), then a Ruger.....yep!

Yep, Dean...that's my toy too. Spoke w/ Browning again and they suggested that I might have an older style buffer (on the recoil spring) which would indicate that some parts could be updated. Tandemkross also makes a more aggressive extractor that I might add on.

I think I'll just play with this guy awhile and see if I can't make it behave.

Thanks for the feedback all. SmileWavy

Compared to a Ruger single six, or a beautimous Diamondback that never, ever fail to go bang....I'll just say this....

That's a nice yellow towel :)!

I keed....

Bought this new about a year ago (Ruger Mk 4 Hunter with fluted barrel). Like a nail gun. Haven’t used it in some time. One button take-down is awesome. Tend to prefer my 9mm’s. If you want a good deal...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1565208400.jpg

Rickysa don't rule out having a local gun Smith work on it. A good Smith can work a lot of magic .

Rick, a failure to fully extract and eject a spent shell casing is often a magazine problem, not a gun problem. It can come from the magazine holding the next round too high or at the wrong angle. Are you using the mags that came with it? Have you tried different mags?

Jeff, I went to the range just now and put a hundred rounds thru...rather than stove piping, it was a matter of the slide not moving fully forward. Original mags.

It is the older recoil, so maybe an update will help (only second time trying it after a factory service)

Run it past these guys before you sell it. An odd bunch, sure, ;) but they do know it all.

https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=17

That is often too small of a chamber, or too sharp of an edge at the opening to the chamber. You can check the former by removing the barrel and trying to press rounds in with your finger. The latter will show up as scuff marks on one side of the brass in mild cases, right up to shaving brass in extreme cases. You can check this by reassembling the gun and chambering rounds from the magazine in the same manner it would if it were cycling. If they won't fully chamber, put a bit of force on the slide. Extract them and see if one side is getting scuffed or shaved. If they are, very slightly break the sharp edge of the chamber. A small cone shaped abrasive stone, like from a Dremel tool set, does a good job. Turn it by hand in a pin vise or something. It doesn't take much.

Do you mean you are going to try an new recoil spring?

So it is not going fully into battery?

After you first try Jeff's suggestions, You might try different ammo. I have different luck with different ammo. And I have to shoot with a new ammo for awhile on the tight chamber match guns like a Hammerli 208S before they function reliably, even if I go back with a ammo it was use to but shot another in between.
I think it is a function of the external lubrication difference of .22 long rifle ammo.

That pistol would be gone from my safe, if the manufacturer can't fix it. Life is too short to use broken stuff. Just trade it in for a revolver. If that isn't your thing and it has to be a pistol, then I agree with the Ruger Mk1-4 recommendation. The latest version seems to be much easier to R&R and clean. That hunter pistol posted is beautiful, but it is a bit of a brick IMHO (I used to own the MK3 version and traded it for a waterfowl gun I actually use).

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^^^^ Yep. I have a Ruger LC9S purchased a few years ago (my first & only 9mm) after trying my uncle's, and deciding I needed one :). Well...the one I purchased sucked and was deffective...out of the box. FTF on at least 30%....

The idiot at Cabella's said they don't take spoons back :(

You wanna bet?

GOML :)

....."MY" LC9S has never ftf....

try a little firmer grip and stiffer wrist.
I have to tried to relax my wrist and grip with my 9 and let the gun "move" a little more. not good.
the shots can go high and it too will jam.
you have to do a death grip but perhaps more in support from the wrist.

^^^ if that's for me....nope! Spoon was obviouly deffective, to me, and the idiot at Cabella's once he broke it down also :).

Me: I need to return a deffective spoon that's ftf on about 20/50...I see why.

Him: We don't accept returns (I knew this to be a lie....I had returned a Henry .22 before)

Me: I want to speak to a supervisor.

Him: I am one.

Me: Then I want to speak to the store manager.

Him: Broke the gun down and saw what I did...it should have never been sold...obviously deffective

I hope he liked "crow"....of course he was important enough to delegate the "normal return" to a nice kid for me :)

What a prick...him & me (if I have to be)...

This is a very competitive market these days. Really, if the manufacturer cannot fix it and make it right, there are plenty of others to choose from. If they are not going to make that choice for you - from their own inventory, after trying to fix "yours", it's pretty easy to tell them to keep it and you will shop elsewhere.

That is certainly one approach. For me, if I really like the gun, I'm willing to fiddle with it a bit. These are pretty darn simple mechanisms. If the basic design is sound (and the Buckmark is very sound), it's going to be some simple little thing that is probably pretty easy to fix.

I've only sent one gun back in my entire life. I bought a 4 1/2" stainless Blackhawk in .45 Colt (what else?) for my oldest son on his 21st birthday. The front sight was clocked over at 1:00. Not a "home repair" by any means. Ruger's customer service was outstanding. It spent more time in transit than in their shop. I can't say enough about those guys.

I skipped that whole thing and bought the conversion kit for the P226...

Though now that I want to teach my daughter I'm thinking I should have one of those.

I'm old skool Jeff...I wuz already apprehensive about buying a spoon JMB didn't design...."striker fired"....wtf :)? It wuz going back after only half a box of break-in...a disposable, but gotta be reliable spoon....so it went back.

Love it's replacement....flawless.

What ammo have you tried?
My P22 often won't cycle with any sort of sub-sonic or low velocity round.
Federal seems to give me lots of trouble.
Remington golden bullet is decent but a little dirty and generally 1/100 FTF.
CCI Blazer seems to be the most reliable of the pinking ammo I've tried.