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I bet the Coke machines have plastic bottles.
Yup.
If they were going to go green, then they'd get rid of all plastics.
But they didn't.

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Old 08-21-2019, 06:49 PM
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so, I have to ask, how many of you drink out of one of those plastic daily ow weekly? I only buy them from the corner if I am really thirsty and that happens once every 3-6 months. I will take a bottle if a client or someone offered it to me on a hot day. Other then that, almost never. Businesses at SFO will fold if I traveled often.
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Did anybody actually look at what they are doing? Just like most airports, there are spacey gadgets called drinking fountains. Only now, they have a really crazy area to fill your own bottle.
I know. Sounds like something from another planet.
God forbid any human should have to stoop so low as to fill their own container.
Something even crazier is TSA is catching on after seeing countless bottles getting thrown away to clear security and they've had the balls to have a handy receptacle that you can pour your liquids into, and then carry that burdensome container through and find said fountain to refill.
Sounds farfetched but imagine not having to pay 5 bucks for water.
Gotta be a socialist conspiracy right?
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^ YES ^ to TSA drains.

On the public water; at Seattle's Airport I've had to wait in line to fill my bottles. Let's hope SFO put in a LOT more of those fillers.

Banning PETE water bottles... it is sad when decision makers pull this type of uninformed, emotionally driven power-play. Bottled water is clearly popular. Yet someone somewhere is freaked out over recyclable water bottles. Yeesh. So short sighted.
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OMG. You had to wait in line.
Surely you're entitled to line free water. I give in. Bring back the dumpsters and $5 water.
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OMG. You had to wait in line.
Surely you're entitled to line free water. I give in. Bring back the dumpsters and $5 water.
Why so angry?

My point was that even w/o bottled water being taken out, the popularity of refilling is enough for existing infrastructure. It was posted earlier that SFO sells 10k bottles a day. Taking out that resource will cause huge lines at those few slow bottle fillers.

BTW, "entitled to line free water." I have no expectation. However it is pretty shtty for TSA to confiscate water. .. and then for the "secure" area to be lacking sufficient water services, free, or for sale.
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The TSA isn’t concerned about water, they’re concerned about someone putting something that isn’t water into a water bottle and then using it to start a fire and / or blow up an airplane.

There is a logic to it.
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Before bottled water became a thing, I think most people drank soda. I remember spending plenty of time in airports before there was even diet soda, other than maybe TAB. We now all know how great that is for you, which has made water a healthier alternative. Sure, I used water fountains whenever I could, but I also remember being in elementary school and having to stand in a long line to take a sip off the fountain. And then it got so bad, that, when we came in from recess, the teacher would stand by the fountain and count five seconds out for each person to take a drink. I'm guessing that doesn't happen anymore due to bottled water.

And if they charged a deposit for plastic bottles or actually enforced littering laws, it wouldn't be such a problem. I buy bottled water a few times a week because I'm driving around out in the desert for hours on end most days, it's 115 deg. and I can't always get to a place to fill up the one or two liter-sized empties I usually have in the car. When you're in the desert in the summer and see a sign that reads, "Next Services 25 Miles," you will want to have some water with you. There's a sign like that near Twenty Nine Palms, CA that warns the next services are 100 miles away. They can charge whatever they want for water there and you'll pay it.

In China there are hot water fountains everywhere and you see people always carrying thermoses. They keep a stash of tea leaves in the thermos and top off with hot water when they get low. It's everywhere and it's free. It's also used for all the stop and go places that sell noodle soup kits where you just add hot water. And you can't even drink the tap water in China.
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SFO apparently has “hydration stations” scattered around the airport.


When I travel, I carry a Contigo travel water bottle and a travel coffee mug that I got at Costco. They seem to do the job.
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Did anybody actually look at what they are doing? Just like most airports, there are spacey gadgets called drinking fountains. Only now, they have a really crazy area to fill your own bottle.
I know. Sounds like something from another planet.
God forbid any human should have to stoop so low as to fill their own container.
Something even crazier is TSA is catching on after seeing countless bottles getting thrown away to clear security and they've had the balls to have a handy receptacle that you can pour your liquids into, and then carry that burdensome container through and find said fountain to refill.
Sounds farfetched but imagine not having to pay 5 bucks for water.
Gotta be a socialist conspiracy right?

Ever heard of a chill pill?
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The TSA isn’t concerned about water, they’re concerned about someone putting something that isn’t water into a water bottle and then using it to start a fire and / or blow up an airplane.

There is a logic to it.
That is why you can't bring it in, not a reason not to sell it

I don't go to San Francisco anymore anyway, do not care much what they do, no matter how silly and misguided.
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You wanna know who else refuses to sell bottled water?


The company that I own. Come to think of it, the company that my wife owns. Oh, and the company I work for as well. Wait...I'm trying to think if there's a single company in my building that will sell bottled water...um...nope, not a one.

Multiple privately owned companies, just spitting in the face of America by not selling bottled water to people.

There's a sink on the plane, fill up there.



What's the saying...if you don't like the TSA, you can catch the Greyhound? There's even options now! Crucero, Megabus, Uber...Uber will sell you bottled water, and even drive to the store, pick it up, and deliver it to you! Uber loves America. America loves bottled water.

Indians hate bottled water, Indians hate America.
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I just happen to be sitting at SFO right now, on my way to the STL IndyCar race. It’s hellish—not a plastic water bottle in sight. People are despairing—the feelings of desperation are palpable. Panic is in the air.

Always popular to pick a city doing something you don’t like or think is silly, and then claim that the city should be devoting its time and energy to [pick some conservative cause—fighting “crime,” separating babies from their parents, forcing abortion seekers to view ultrasounds]. You know, wholesome republican stuff.
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There's a sink on the plane, fill up there.
You know this, but all the water served on flights is bottled. The last water you want to drink is the tap water in an airplane lav. That comes from a disgusting storage tank that you wouldn't touch with a 10' pole if you got see it first.
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Plastic water bottles are massively efficient.

Banning them is simplistic stupidity.

Like RL suggested, put a big ol deposit on the bottles.

Think of the street people and the cost of street drugs these daze.
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OMG! Look what they have at Hudson News! The authorities have been notified.
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And to panic some, what do we do when an Ebola/Malaria/Measles infected person stops to drink at the public fountain.. or uses it as a personal wash station. I see bottled water, especially for travelers, as a way of limiting ones exposure to germs and other health risks.
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And to panic some, what do we do when an Ebola/Malaria/Measles infected person stops to drink at the public fountain.. or uses it as a personal wash station. I see bottled water, especially for travelers, as a way of limiting ones exposure to germs and other health risks.
The good news is that sanitized city water kills bacteria and pathogens quickly so your exposure at a water fountain is often far less risky than change from the cash register, handrails and doorknobs.

Water is sorta my thing and I have done a lot of testing to see exactly what is in bottled water vs typical city water. I prefer city by a longshot. YMMV
https://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/about/live-healthy/tap-water-vs-bottled-water

This is my preferred solution in airports when I can find them:

https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/plumbing/drinking-fountains/water-refilling-stations/elkay-filtered-ezh2o-surface-mount-bottle-filling-station-lzwssm?infoParam.campaignId=T9F&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIp-CNxJKX5AIVFBx9Ch0wpwd4EAQYBCABEgJnYvD_BwE
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Any city with a feces map has a lot more to be concerned about than bottled water....
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I bet the Coke machines have plastic bottles.
Exactly. If you're going to ban plastic bottles, ban all plastic bottles. AKA - Go full retard.
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