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dsfnctn 09-06-2019 06:58 AM

This Catalina 27 looks good from the few pics you can see. Inspection for sure.
The Catalina 27 was a well built boat for its time and has a lot of room fairly light and sails well

https://gulfport.craigslist.org/boa/d/slidell-27-sailboat/6968954049.html

drcoastline 09-06-2019 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCadaddle (Post 10583385)
Been watching craigslist from Dallas to Atlanta and everything south to Pensacola, along with the sailing texas, sailboatlistings.com and the usual others for a few weeks. I've seen the ads for 2 out of the 3 listed above. The sailing academy is interesting, long way away.

Thursdays gem was a local Catalina 22 in a side yard on large foam blocks, been that way for probably 10 years and the last tarp over it died 5 years ago. Unfortunately, at this point it is nothing more than "yard art" and a functional mosquito breeder.

Friday's gem will be this one:

https://jackson.craigslist.org/boa/d/vicksburg-22-ft-bayliner-sailboat/6971299654.html

Hmmm, ask the lady friend and her dad what they think of Bayliner? If they don't like Hunter can't imagine any good words about Bayliner. Bayliner's reputation through the 80's early 2000's was so bad they spun off the yacht division (40 feet and over) and renamed it Meridian to distance it's self from the Bayliner name.

Use extreme caution.

SCadaddle 09-06-2019 07:30 AM

Duly noted on the Bayliner stuff. Looks like they were a division of Brunswick. When I think Brunswick, I think bowling balls and bowling pins. Maybe even pool tables. Through the late 80's and early 90's the lady friend and her Dad had a large Bayliner cruiser type boat with twin inboard Volvo engines. They seemed to enjoy that boat.

Should be interesting to see what $600 buys in an old sailboat these days. Still kicking tires at this point.

KFC911 09-06-2019 08:13 AM

$6K will get you a nice one....imo ;).

Take yer time lookin' & learnin' as you seem to be searching just fine imo....took me 6 months to find my 911 years ago...

Happy searchin'...and sailin'!

tevake 09-06-2019 09:47 AM

Is there value in a bargin boat?
If it's been sitting unused for years or is missing most of the needed equipment , then getting it ready to enjoy may bring the cost close to that of a nice well equipped boat.

I think finding a boat that was owned and loved by an older sailor that is aging out of the sport may be worth looking for. They often have the budget to maintain and upgrade their boats, then passing it on to a caring new owner is more important than top dollar for the boat.

I went the bargin route with the Morgan, and 10 months later am still gathering the gear and getting it in shape to get on the water with it.

Good luck in your quest.

Cheers Richard

KFC911 09-06-2019 10:03 AM

^^^ That's what I'm talkin' about...even the "needs nothing" old 30' Morgan ('72 an awesome one)....sold for 7K....smaller is better for the OP. Where are you going to keep a boat if not on a trailer? That's why they are cheap ;)...

Hopefully yer pals know stuff....Bayliner...LOL

svandamme 09-06-2019 10:10 AM

"Do you balls hang low,
Can you swing 'em to and fro,
Can you tie 'em in a knot,
Can you tie 'em in a bow,
Do you get a funny feeling,
When they're hanging from the ceiling,
Oh you'll never be a sailor,
If you balls hang low."

SCadaddle 09-06-2019 01:13 PM

Dreams dashed......

I went and checked out the $600 1979 Bayliner Buccaneer with trailer and 4 extra wheels and tires. And here was the story:

The current owner purchased it from the original owner, in the MS Delta who took great care of the boat, and when he wasn't on it in the water it was stored inside his shop. Out of the water, out of the elements from 1979 or so until this past March. The current owner bought it from him with the hopes of taking it to the Gulf Coast and making a "live aboard" out of it. Something happened, either the companion way was compromised or something....the boat wound up with about 8 inches of rainwater inside of it. The current owner had already redone all of the cushions and stuff and the sails are in good shape----all kept inside their home. We managed to use a garden hose and siphon out all but about the last 2 inches of water. The inside woodwork that got wet is in pretty rough shape. The hull, the deck, the sails, the rest of the boat is in great shape. The owner's dream of the boat is shot. It needs to go.

"I'm open to offers."
"Will $400 buy the boat?"
"That's the number I had in mind."

A handshake deal was made until I can look it over once again on Sunday, I took two of the wheels with old tires to the tire shop and am having new tires fitted. Maybe by Sunday I'll be a (project) boat owner. Or the owner of 2 mobile home wheels with a pair of new 14.5 x 8 14 ply tires fitted.

Jim Richards 09-06-2019 05:05 PM

Hope it works out for you. Most used boats are projects to varying degrees, so you’ll have some blood, sweat, and tears invested in it by the time you’re ready to take her sailing. Enjoy! SmileWavy

tevake 09-08-2019 01:36 PM

SCadaddle ahoy, have you had the time to bring the boat home, and a chance to go thru it cleaning and checking it out?

Looking forward to a report on your findings.

Cheers Richard

SCadaddle 09-09-2019 12:51 PM

Update:

This past Saturday afternoon I took "the first mate" aka the lady friend to take a look at the boat. Her remarks:

"THAT aint happening!"

I reluctantly agreed, called the owner to give her the news that I had decided it was going to be too much of a project for myself, and that we needed to work out some kind of resolution on the pair of old wheels and tires---there were 4 extra wheels and dry rotted tires in the deal in addition to the pair of wheels and dry rotted tires that were currently on the trailer--- that she told me to take with me if I wanted to fit new tires. Last Friday afternoon I dropped the pair of wheels off with the tire shop and picked them up Saturday morning with new 14.5 x 8 14 ply tires fitted and I paid the tire shop about $165.

Yeah, I made a mental mistake on a boat and trailer that the owner didn't have the bill of sale from the person she bought it from that would have to be provided to the next buyer along with a bill of sale between her and the next buyer in order for both bill of sales to show chain of ownership for the boat to be registered with the State, and I spent $165 for a pair of tires to fit the trailer so it could be towed.

Luckily I have a friend that has a trailer that uses that type of wheel/tire and he and I can barter something, so that's one solution. The boat owner can either tell me "the wheels are worth X" so I can go that route and everybody is happy. OR if the owner can get full asking price for the boat with the new tires to go on the trailer and compensate me to some degree for the tires then that is a solution as well. OR I can just pay up front for $165 worth of good karma and give the owner the new pair of tires on her old wheels if that will help her make the deal to get the boat out of her yard. My take of course is that the owner owes me nothing, yet I feel I owe her something.

So that's where things are. Still looking for something else.

KFC911 09-09-2019 01:10 PM

Keep on searchin'.....and give yer first mate a big ol' THANK YOU...whew ;)

SCadaddle 09-09-2019 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 10587078)
Keep on searchin'.....and give yer first mate a big ol' THANK YOU...whew ;)

Yeah, I know.

If nothing else, I figured out how to get a lot of water out of a boat on a trailer the easy way using a garden hose when the distance from the faucet to the boat was longer than the hose.

1) Hook garden hose to faucet with open end down hill.
2) Turn on faucet and run water until it is coming out of the hose at full blast.
3) Have someone crimp the downstream end of the hose and hold it that way.
4) Crimp the upstream end of the hose as you are turning off the faucet.
5) Unscrew the hose from the faucet.
6) Carry the crimped upstream end of the hose to the boat, up the ladder, into the boat and place the end of the hose into the water in the boat, preferably at the lowest point and release your crimp on the hose.
7) Holler from inside of the boat to the person holding the downstream end of the hose "ok let go!"

Siphon worked like a champ.

john70t 09-09-2019 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCadaddle (Post 10587043)
Yeah, I made a mental mistake on a boat and trailer that the owner didn't have the bill of sale from the person she bought it from that would have to be provided to the next buyer along with a bill of sale between her and the next buyer in order for both bill of sales to show chain of ownership for the boat to be registered with the State, and I spent $165 for a pair of tires to fit the trailer so it could be towed.

Life is too short....my fellow man on the internet.

Don't waste it on idiots and people selling stuff they don't actually own.
You made the right call.
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So you looked at a big boat and bought some trailer tires before buying....?
Big deal.
Whatever.
Let it all go. Don't over-think the situation. It's just a boat.
------------------------------------------

Go find something else inexpensive which the two of you can enjoy together for now.
Something easy to handle.
Or wait until next spring before buying.

In the meantime there are a lot of other outside possibilities and day trips possible.
Go enjoy life. At your own pace.

Sunroof 09-10-2019 03:32 AM

Check out Georgia! SNUGHARBOR BOATS in Buford, GA has a decent inventory of sailboats. These are all Lake Lanier, GA boats. If your budget is limited stick with Catalina or Hunter, especially if your lake sailing. More bang for the buck. The older models were built stronger anyways, but you already know that.

If your going to trailer, what not expand your search eastward.

_/)

KFC911 09-10-2019 05:02 AM

^^^ Sunroof is gonna find you a boat....not a BOAT ;)

Sunroof 09-10-2019 06:04 AM

you betcha!!

Here is what I just saw on the SNUGHARBOR BOATS website:

CAL 22 1985 $1950
CATALINA 25 1980 6200
CATALINA 25 1987 6400
RANGER 26 1977 4450
CATALINA 27 1978 5600
CATALINA 27 1982 5850

That's the under 30 inventory. All freshwater vessels.

Bob _/)

Sunroof 09-10-2019 06:39 AM

Okay one more time!

Check out Sailboatlistings.com and go to Mississippi. The list of sailboats advertised all over your state is lengthy. Dozens under 7K and all sizes.

Sailors are passionate about sailing and only sailors can attest to that. I started when a friend of my fathers asked me at the age of 14 if I wanted to crew on his Rhodes 19 that he sailed out of Belmont Harbor in Chicago. He said, "listen kid do what I say and move fast". Boy, did I learn the hard way and he won just about every race every racing season. Sailing in Lake Michigan with that view of the skyline was fantastic! He was not quite like Captain Bligh but the discipline made it all sink in. Since then I was Commodore of the sailing club at Florida Tech racing Hobie Cats and just kept at it making sailing my passion and hobby.
In 1983, I sold my house and all my possessions and took a three year old and nervous wife and bought a 35 ft Coronado sloop that we lived on and cruised for over three years. It was the adventure of a lifetime! Over the years I have owned many boats of various sizes and get up to the Lake (my wife is from Rhode Island and prefers saltwater of course) as often as I can.

So yes, I am passionate about all things sailing and love the lifestyle. I think I see myself as a broker when I retire soon (part time). With that, I want you to get into a sailboat and you have become a welcome challenge for us. We have to get you out on the water to relax your soul................:)

Bob _/)

Jim Richards 09-10-2019 09:47 AM

https://cdn.moreboats.com/boats/2654...65f3930.xl.jpg

https://cdn.moreboats.com/boats/2654...65f392b.xl.jpg

That Cal 22 that Bob mentioned above would make a great first boat. IMO. :D

Sunroof 09-10-2019 12:15 PM

Here are the CAL 22 specs from the Snugharborboats website. She's a fin keel for better stability and getting a trailer should not be a problem if you scout around. Folks rent trailers to haul sailboats all the time. What a great price and she looks very clean. Looking at the houseboats in the background I would suspect she is docked at Holiday Marina, Sunrise Cove Marina or Holiday Marina on Lake Lanier (30 miles north of Atlanta).

Specifications

Additional Info

Basic Boat Info

Price: $1,950

Boat Name: Natasha

Make: CAL

Model: 22

Year: 1985

Condition: Used

Category: Sail

Builder: Bangor Punta Corp.

Designer: Raymond Hunt

Construction: Fiberglass

Boat Hull ID: CABT0034C585

Has Hull ID: Yes

Keel Type: Fin Keel


Dimensions

Length: 22 ft

Length Overall: 22 ft

Beam: 7'9 ft

Max Draft: 3'6 ft

Displacement: 2,100 lb

Ballast: 775 lb

Engines / Speed

Engines: 1

• Make: Yamaha
• Fuel: Unleaded
• Type: Outboard
• Engine Hours: 20
• Engine Location: Starboard

Other

Boat Class: Cruisers, Daysailers

Snug Harbor Boats
3017 McEver Road
Buford, Georgia, US, 30518
Tel:(770) 831-0403


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