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Talk about female singers....

As impressive as Grace Slick, at least to me...
 

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^^^

Love Shirley! She's 52 now. Amazing how time flies.

Okay, so I checked her out. Decent pipes, couldn't stand the songs I listened to... not my cup of tea, doubt she'll ever make the big time.

Patsy was pretty talented. Not a fan of her genre, though I could listen to Crazy occasionally. Definitely talented.

Linda was good, too. Always a favorite of mine. Saw her live in her prime, as I did with Grace, thought Grace was the better singer live. Would have been happy to go home with either of them.

Garbage sucks. The singer can't hold a candle to these others we're discussing, the band as a whole is nothing special. Wake me when they hit the big time. It's all relative.

Dolly has has a lot of success but, as nice a person as she is, I couldn't listen to her for long. Not my cup of tea, at all.

As for the rest of you, this thread isn't a debate about who's the best female vocalist of all time. It's just as chance to listen to a track that none of us have ever heard and to appreciate for a few minutes the talent that one person had. I'm not aware of any formal voice training she had and she came of age in an era where that sort of coaching was relatively rare, compared to today. It was also before they invented all of the band-aids available to the modern vocalist. I thought the recording was very interesting and worth a listen.

Ya wanna worship your own gods, hit that new thread button.

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better sound but worse vid version:

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Wow, back in the days when MTV played videos! I remember turning it on and letting it play for hours. In the same era there was a cable channel that was nothing but women exercising while wearing tight clothes. I laughed out loud when I found that one. It was a lot of yoga as I remember.

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If you isolate the singer from the Garbage video you will find a rather average voice singing with a band. Nothing special. Are there talented singers out there today? Probably, but the majority are just average talent with an attitude and auto-tune.
Take out the band, visual show, effects, and enhancements there isn't much left.
Who from 1999 forward compares to Grace, Joan Baez, Emmylou Harris, Joni Mitchell?

Nobody compares to Grace, Joan, Joni, et al. These are different times, the world is moving faster and instead of mellow moods, we wake up every day stressed out. The music has changed and the singers have changed to match. I like women vocalists that have an edge, like Shirley, from Garbage or maybe some of this:

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And some more. This music has depth and power. In My Humble Opinion. Your Mileage May Vary.

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Man, it makes me laugh how often members of one generation always say the same hogwash about generations that follow. It must suck biggly to have such a narrow, past-reaching scope.

Grammy award winner on an upward path.

Consider checking out her Grammy show performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJqL1yIm9e0

Check out Cass Elliot in the audience getting blown away along with everyone else at the MPF as Janis leaves every little piece of her heart on the stage in this epic version of Ball and Chain.

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Janice was willing to lay her soul bare to the audience. That made her a unique artist for that time. She wasn't a great singer but she sure could emote.

Thank you! Thank you all! That was great!

OK, so now I’ve listened to both studio and live versions of that song. I think she has an interesting voice, and I think she could use better material, but I don’t think her voice is in the same league as Grace Slick in her prime. You may like her better than I do, and that is just fine.

That said, I guess I still have to state again that the point of this thread wasn’t to debate who the best singer was, even though the thread title might suggest something along those lines. It was simply to encourage you to listen to a vocal track that I don’t think you’d ever hear anywhere else, and that I found to be pretty amazing. If you knew how many things were manipulated in vocal tracks now, that probably (or definitely) were not available in the 1960s, I think you’d understand where I’m coming from.

True, but, given the choice, I’d rather listen to someone who’s voice is a little more pleasant.

There are a lot of vocalists who have had quite a bit of success, without having what I consider a very good voice. Cat Stevens comes to mind, as does Rod Stewart.

Music is funny in that way.

Natalie Merchant does "it" for me....

And I get why ya posted the thread too ;)

Linda adorned my dorm room door....
wif them puppy dawg eyes :)

Tracy Chapman - Fast car & Give me one reason
Alanis - You Oughta Know - Jagged little pill

Joan Jett - saw her live last year, still got "it" great performance.

For some reason Brittany Spears was popular even though she needs autotune.

Her audience was comprised of 13-year-old girls, who probably have never heard of autotune. Frankly, that probably goes for 99% of the public, who spend their days listening to MP3 tracks on their smart phone or iPod. Crap in, crap out.

God forbid someone should enlighten them that it’s even worse than auto tune, all of their modern heroes have comped vocal tracks.

Actually more aerobics than yoga. That program was called Aerobicise. Eye-candy at its finest...

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Ok, gimmy a break, it was 38 years ago, so the details get fuzzy. I had not even thought about it until MTV playing music videos was mentioned.

I bet more tweenaged boys watched the videos of her than girls.

Music for the digital age I guess. I admit, we have MP3s on a flash drive in the car. Doesn't bother me.

Teenage boys, their dads, who knows? I think a big component of her fan base now is gay men, for whatever reason.

As for MP3’s, I’ve never owned a single one. I’ve never owned an iPod, never downloaded a song, I’ve got absolutely no music on my iPhone and none of my audio systems will play an MP3. I occasionally watch a YouTube video on my computer, God help me.

As much as I do not care for Christina Aguillera, she has a phenomenal voice. I remember seeing her singing on some local morning program in Pittsburg when she could not have been more than 10 or 12 years old. The big sound that came out of that tiny little kid was just amazing to me.

Here's Jagger working hard to keep up on a duet of Live With Me ↓

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We don't have sat radio and it is difficult to take CDs in the car so I ripped all them and put them on the flash drive. On the road it sounds fine.

This girl can put out some sound.

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The draft. The Vietnam war. Kent State. The Watts riots. Kennedy assassination. Civil rights protest. MLK assassination. Forced busing and integration. Bay of Pigs crisis. Nuclear attack drills in Elementary schools. An increasingly outspoken and hostile generation rebelling against "the man". "Crisis in Needle Park" and the explosion of heroin addictions.

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"There must be some way out of here..." All Along the Watchtower

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"I can't get no satisfaction"

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Yeah, mellow times.

I remember being blown away by Haley Reinhart sing "Blue" on American Idol...

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Here's a "Blue" with a real voice

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here's another track from the same album
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what a range!

Eggzactly.

A lot depends on how blunted your memory of the past is, possibly combined with not watching as much news when younger compared to having the free time to do it today.

I remember hearing Lea Ann Rymes (sp?) at 11 sing “Blue” the first time. I couldn’t believe a little kid could sing like that.

https://youtu.be/plxpY8KLA-Y

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Woof,