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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 10604744)

Now the market is down and he wants a free ride on the whole thing.

If the market wasn't down he'd have said nothing. Passed it on to the next guy.

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 10604744)

That's true and I agree.
But as Jeff mentioned, it was two years later and the buyer had all the resources to confirm that information before the sale.
What if it was the buyer who nuked the original engine and faked numbers on the replacement?
Now the market is down and he wants a free ride on the whole thing.

Exactly. In the two years he has now owned this car, anything could have happened.

While I agree that the kinds of folks who profit from fakes should be pursued and held accountable, two years down the road is simply too long. The "injured party" clearly has other motivations.

Paul and I are both aware of a case local to us, up here in the Pacific Northwest, wherein a couple of guys were going to turn a nondescript 911 T into a much more valuable 911 S. To Paul's great credit, he called them on it and put a stop to it. These two were foolish enough to have been bragging it up before they finished it up...

Beyond that, I must say I have absolutely less than zero sympathy for anyone in this whole "collector car" game. They have made their own bed. They can sleep in it. Sounds like far too many of them could use a pacifier and a blanky while they are doing so...

When I sold my '71 T I found out during the sale that it had an S motor. (With Webbers, but still an S engine number)

I let the sale continue even though I probably should have stopped it and sold the motor alone for what the car went for.

You live and you learn.

2 years after the fact, clearly an asshat

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 10604660)

He bought the car in 2017. It took him two years to decide he had to authenticate this car? God only knows what the buyer may have done to it in the last two years. There is absolutely no way the seller can be held responsible after two years in which the buyer has had possession of the car.

I have little doubt that the buyer did a thorough PPI through the most reputable of shops prior to signing the check. He would be a fool not to have done so with that kind of money involved.

So, yeah - two years of ownership during which time the market went flat, if not receded significantly. He bought at the peak and got caught holding the bag, and now wants out.

I agree with Jeff. There's something off about the whole thing.

This sort of crap and the associated liability is probably why Porsche will not issue COAs anymore...
Now you have to take the car in an approved dealership and get it checked there... It's crazy. I am glad I got mine before that deadline, but I suppose if I ever sell one day, the ad will say "I sent the #s to Porsche and they said they match, you're on your own after that"...

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Originally Posted by Les Paul (Post 10604598)

How much do you drive that Speedster?

Whenever I feel like going for a ride. It’s just for fun.

Good that you still do. I’ve managed to go almost 4,000 miles since May without really going anywhere��