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greglepore 10-02-2019 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by VFR750 (Post 10610613)
I’m running General Tire G-max uhp all season.

I ran 170+ Track miles at Watkins glen in June 2019 during a DE.

Two sessions in the rain. Very good braking from >100 mph. A little vague in turn 3 when the car gets light.

Two sessions in the dry. They worked nicely and did not chunk. I clocked them at 6 seconds slower than R888Rs 😁

Tread actually held up well under high loads. They wailed and howled in protest.

They have been nice in these recent cold New England mornings.

Going to try these, General is owned by Conti and I've heard that these are as good as the dsw's.

flipper35 10-02-2019 01:02 PM

We have BFG Comp 2 A/S on our sedan and they are the best tires I have used as an all season. We have snow, ice, rain, bitter cold here and they do well on all but ice. I take the truck with Blizzaks when there is ice and I really need to go somewhere.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=238

Tobra 10-02-2019 04:48 PM

Came here to mention the General tires, well reviewed, driven cars with them, intended to put them on my car but there was a mix up ordering, so they gave me a VERY good price on some Hankook Ventus A/S

Do not get the Hankook Ventus A/S

Shaun @ Tru6 12-01-2019 04:50 PM

Have had the Michelin A/S 3's on for about 1K miles now. Great tire, impressed with how well it drives and grips in the 20F range. Tires aren't noisy at all. A little heavier than the summer Yokohamas but that's to be expected given tread depth alone.

Have 3" of snow on the ground now, streets not plowed, went out for a spin. The tire works well around town, got to 45 a few times, better than expected, drives fine in fresh snow too. Tried a few panic stops and quick starts and starting up a hill from a stop. All handled well.

Glad I went with this tire. I figure I'll get at least 4 years out of them or $200 per year. Can't beat that.

Superman 12-01-2019 06:23 PM

I just got rid of a set of Michelins much like the A/S 3+ you mentioned. I do not recall whether they were the "A/S 3+" exactly, but similar tread pattern. Worst performing (supposed) "M&S" tire I have ever seen. I replaced them with the Michelin CrossClimate+ and am very happy. Quieter tire than I expected. This, on my DD. Conti's on the 911.

Superman 12-01-2019 06:24 PM

Oops. I should've read the entire thread.

pavulon 12-02-2019 01:09 AM

If anyone reading this lives in real snow country and is still wondering if winter tires are everything people make them out to be, they really are. It’s not so much about getting stuck (but they certainly can attenuate that concern too), it’s about turning and stopping. So much so that you may need to give consideration for limitations of others who may not be running them.

Shaun @ Tru6 12-02-2019 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 10675566)
If anyone reading this lives in real snow country and is still wondering if winter tires are everything people make them out to be, they really are. It’s not so much about getting stuck (but they certainly can attenuate that concern too), it’s about turning and stopping. So much so that you may need to give consideration for limitations of others who may not be running them.

Snow country people suffer with dedicated winter tires, they know the drill, I used to live in MN and always switched over to real snow tires. Here in Boston, we got 6 inches overnight. Roads were just wet this morning. For me, there's no reason to have to live with snow tires.

jyl 12-02-2019 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 10675335)
Have had the Michelin A/S 3's on for about 1K miles now. Great tire, impressed with how well it drives and grips in the 20F range. Tires aren't noisy at all. A little heavier than the summer Yokohamas but that's to be expected given tread depth alone.

Have 3" of snow on the ground now, streets not plowed, went out for a spin. The tire works well around town, got to 45 a few times, better than expected, drives fine in fresh snow too. Tried a few panic stops and quick starts and starting up a hill from a stop. All handled well.

Glad I went with this tire. I figure I'll get at least 4 years out of them or $200 per year. Can't beat that.

That's similar to our experience.

Good in fresh snow, still good on packed snow. What I was surprised about was when we had a week long ice event - in Portland, the snow is wet and temps are borderline, so if snow lasts more than a few days the roads turns to slick, polished ice that you can hardly even walk on. The A/S on a AWD were usable on slick ice - driving slowly and avoiding major hills. we had no trouble getting around.

For rain, I recall the A/S has grooves that get wider as they go deeper, so that as the tires wear they maintain their ability to displace water.

cabmandone 12-03-2019 02:03 PM

Every vehicle I drive is AWD or 4wd...I don't do "snow tires" Let it snow... Let it snow... Let it snow...
FWIW, just bought to Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06 for my son's Veloster. Impressive tire.

RWebb 12-03-2019 05:45 PM

does Nokkian make an UHP tire?


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