Popeyes employee in trouble!

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

I would think that part of Chick Fil A's success is due to the fact the "owner" must work in the place of business. You can find the "owner" working the counter. The "owner" spends significant time training in an existing store before taking over his own place.

Whatever their "secret to success" is, it is working. The only time you see the parking not full of cars in on Sundays or after they close for the night. They are doing a lot of things right. You have to admire that success.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by unclebilly

Yup, actually I did. They put in the automated kiosks for ordering.

Yes, and I acknowledged the fact that you provided a real answer with a real solution a page or two back. You must have missed that.

Originally Posted by unclebilly

These don’t make mistakes, are incapable of assaulting customers, don’t get offended by mere name calling, and don’t have to miss work for court dates or parole meetings.

Exactly. And, as such, would appear to be the perfect "solution".

Originally Posted by unclebilly

I think this may be the solution in places where thugs make up the vast majority of the eligible minimum wage work force. I too would rather deal with a person than an automated teller, but I’d rather deal with an automated teller than a stupid person, or worse yet someone who would escalate an error in a transaction into a brutal assault.

Agreed on all counts. I think all of us would rather deal with a real person - it's how humans are wired.

You raise an interesting point - doing business in places where thugs would make up the vast majority of this minimum wage workforce. How many of us really do that? I think most of us tend to do all of our retail shopping in "nice" neighborhoods, typically close to home. We might run across town, or even drive to another town for some sort of specific item, but how many businesses that folks like us would do business with are actually in "sketchy" neighborhoods?

As far as fast food joints, I won't eat at them under any circumstances. But, if, say, I were on the road and just had to, I think I would keep driving rather than stop at one in one of "those" neighborhoods. I think most of us would.

What I'm getting at with all of this is that I kind of think that these situations are kind of "mutually supportive". I.e., the customer base is no different than the employee base. Stupid, otherwise unemployable minimum wage thugs serving stupid, equally unemployable thugs for customers.

In this particular case, it's obvious that the woman was no saint. No Einstein. I would go so far as to say that while she didn't deserve all of what she got, I just can't feel sorry for her. What I see as the real crime here is that some poor business owner is going to wind up losing a lot of money over two moronic thug's inability to resolve their disputes in the civilized manner in which the rest of us learned to do it.

[Sooner or later]

Business owners have insurance.

[RWebb]

For Comparison:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/11/12/new-jersey-country-club-sues-waiter-after-wine-spills-hermes-kelly-handbag/

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

I made double the min. wage when I worked at Wendy's in 1987-88. Our town had negative unemployment. I was rich back then! No bills, no rent, Mom and Dad covered food when I wasn't at work, I ate for free when at work, nothing to spend my money on but guitars and girls. For my car, NJ had some weird law on school busing, so I got paid $2-3 per passenger, per trip to/from school. Between taking myself, my sister and her friend to/from our private school, the reimbursement from the state more than covered all my gas and insurance. Man, those were the days.

I made 3X minimum wage in 84-85 working at a French restaurant. Started washing dishes in 83 and slowly moved up to finally be the garde manger (cold food chef). Worked 40 hour weeks during 11th and 12th grade of high school to do it. Loved it. But only could have done it because of the work ethic instilled me since a small child... got my own sledge hammer and wedge for my 7th birthday, we heated with wood.

The problem that most fast food employees face is a lack quality parenting which is why they are stuck in the cycle of poverty. With good parenting, fast food jobs would be fun stepping stones for 16 to 22 year olds who then move on and up in life.

The video is just a page in the chapter of poor and absentee parenting in the poverty cycle.

[Sooner or later]

... got my own sledge hammer and wedge for my 7th birthday...

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by widebody911

1965 just called; they want their minumum-wage rationalization back.

You think that it is a career, rather than an entry level job for someone without marketable skills?

[GH85Carrera]

I have never worked in the food industry at any level. I have eaten in a lot of restaurants, from total dives to very exclusive and expensive. I have had way more competent to great experiences at restaurants and several very poor experiences. I never ever once came even close to having a fight of any sort. That is just outside of any thought process I have.

As a kid before I had a car and any way to have a real job I mowed yards for money, but I sure knew it was not my future. I wanted a real job.

My dad gave me an interest free loan to buy any car I could afford, and one he approved of. I paid 100% of every expense, except the insurance. Every single job I have had starting when I was 16 has been in the photography industry.

I credit my parents with instilling in me a simple way of thinking. If I want to make money and buy nice things, WORK hard, and smart, and stand out in the crowd with my work ethic.

I have never received a penny of government money except tax refunds, and that is a tiny portion of the huge amounts of taxes I pay.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

I have never worked in the food industry at any level. I have eaten in a lot of restaurants, from total dives to very exclusive and expensive. I have had way more competent to great experiences at restaurants and several very poor experiences. I never ever once came even close to having a fight of any sort. That is just outside of any thought process I have.

As a kid before I had a car and any way to have a real job I mowed yards for money, but I sure knew it was not my future. I wanted a real job.

My dad gave me an interest free loan to buy any car I could afford, and one he approved of. I paid 100% of every expense, except the insurance. Every single job I have had starting when I was 16 has been in the photography industry.

I credit my parents with instilling in me a simple way of thinking. If I want to make money and buy nice things, WORK hard, and smart, and stand out in the crowd with my work ethic.

I have never received a penny of government money except tax refunds, and that is a tiny portion of the huge amounts of taxes I pay.

What do you think your life would be like if you didn't even have a dad let alone one that could loan you money for a car? A mom that worked two jobs to make ends meet. Not really enough money for good food and even if there was, you lived in what has recently been coined a food desert. Neighbors yelling at all hours of the day, shootings on the street a regular thing, school teachers who really couldn't give a fuch.

Most of us can credit our parents for how we turned out. So can the a-hole worker who body slammed the woman at Popeyes.

A slightly different take but along the same lines. Most people are average. Truly average. It's the rare and very special person who can rise out the ashes of any kind of cycle their family has been in for generations.

[Tobra]

It is not that rare Shaun, I know a lot of people like that. I must just run with the wrong crowd

[Joe Bob]

It gets better.

A new Popeye store got an order for 100 Spivey chicken sammies. One kid set up an extra set up station on top of trash can lids.

Either on Fox or AOL news feeds.

[URY914]

Compare the location of Chick-Fil A stores to Popeye's stores. Big difference in hiring pools.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by URY914

I often have to remind my wife when we stop at a fast food restaurant while traveling that these people work at they places for a reason. They probably can't do better. This is where they work because they have to. They're not PHD material. They are not in med school or law school. When they mess up our order it is almost to be expected. I really want them working here and not in a hospital.

Around here it is mostly high school kids. Though one fast food place here hires those that look like exactly the people you don't want working there. Thing is, they are the most polite people to deal with, where the Burger King in the same town is always filthy and the workers spend more time cussing at each other than anything else.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

What do you think your life would be like if you didn't even have a dad let alone one that could loan you money for a car? A mom that worked two jobs to make ends meet. Not really enough money for good food and even if there was, you lived in what has recently been coined a food desert. Neighbors yelling at all hours of the day, shootings on the street a regular thing, school teachers who really couldn't give a fuch.

Every one of those things could be fixed with a BFH.
I've got some basic ideas.

Any further explanation would have to be answered in parf.

[Bill Douglas]

Umm, I worked in a Mexican Restaurant when in my 20's and a big group of very drunk rugby guys came in. Darn,they were placed at one of my tables The were throwing food at each other and ripping up the menus to make hats. One of them said something like "What ya gonna do about it." I just said "Nice hat. You guys going to have another round of drinks?"

They just wolfed down some cheap Mexican food, topped up their blood/alcohol levels and moved onto, probably, a strip club.

All's well that ends well.

[widebody911]

Originally Posted by Tobra

You think that it is a career, rather than an entry level job for someone without marketable skills?

A job is a job. It's employment, not an economic caste system. Not everyone has the aptitude, education, luck, connections, or intelligence to be a rocket surgeon. I imagine a good percentage of the people on this board were born on 3rd base but think they hit a triple.

[craigster59]

Originally Posted by widebody911

A job is a job. It's employment, not an economic caste system. Not everyone has the aptitude, education, luck, connections, or intelligence to be a rocket surgeon. I imagine a good percentage of the people on this board were born on 3rd base but think they hit a triple.

[ficke]

Originally Posted by widebody911

A job is a job. It's employment, not an economic caste system. Not everyone has the aptitude, education, luck, connections, or intelligence to be a rocket surgeon. I imagine a good percentage of the people on this board were born on 3rd base but think they hit a triple.

LOL, And that sounds about right!

[masraum]

Originally Posted by legion

There is a growing list of questions, either by legislation or case law, that employers are barred from asking, lest they face a discrimination lawsuit.

Some examples of questions employers are legally barred from asking (varies by jurisdiction):

-Do you have a family?
-Are you married?
-Have you ever been arrested?
-Have you ever been convicted of a crime?
-Why were you fired from your last job?

Yet today, employers can be sued when they have employees do things like beat up customers, but their hands are tied on trying to avoid such people in hiring.

Almost every job app that I've ever had to fill out includes a question about whether you've ever been convicted. It's been a while, but I think it's usually "have you ever been convicted of a felony", but it may just be "ever been convicted of a crime".

Also, it's my understanding that they can't ask you or the company that you worked for why you left (fired, quit, laid off, etc...). If they call the other company, the only thing that they'll get is "yes, so-and-so was an employee from date X to date Y." At least that's my understanding of the way things work around here.

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

The problem that most fast food employees face is a lack quality parenting which is why they are stuck in the cycle of poverty. With good parenting, fast food jobs would be fun stepping stones for 16 to 22 year olds who then move on and up in life.

Sure, I had great parents. But most of the stuff they told me before I got my working papers was theory only. I got to see it for real and up close and personal once I started working in restaurants. Sure, most of us were high school kids, working in the summer for extra money. But there were also those who were 10-15 years older, supporting the kids they had as teenagers and having to pay rent, car insurance and other adult expenses. My folks told me all about that stuff the whole time I was growing up, but seeing it firsthand was a much better lesson.