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Porsche Boxster Shooting Brake, Yes or No?

The detail at this IG profile here is hard to find/sift through for this 986 Shooting Brake, but Van Thull Development (Dutch fabricators) are hard at work to get it complete. Believe it! It's a 986 Boxster under all custom body work with donor parts from a 997 and others that make it pretty unrecognizable. What are your thoughts on this project?




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If it lowers drag, then top speed and MPG should be improved.

It should fit the aerodynamic template discussed at length in the following thread/link.

https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/aerodynamic-streamline-template-online-tool-view-streamlined-extension-21952.html

And then you have the utility factor, look at all the stuff you can carry and it's not an SUV.

Someone out there should appreciate those characteristics, but I'm guessing not many.

Perhaps a historic example may help put things in context.

Ferrari 250 GT SWB Breadvan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_250_GT_SWB_Breadvan

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The Ferrari 250 GT SWB Breadvan is a one-off Ferrari made in 1962 from a 1961 Ferrari 250 GT SWB, chassis number 2819 GT. It was built to compete against the new 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO at the 24 Hours of Le Mans and other FIA World Sportscar Championship races. ..............

Bizzarrini applied all the ideas he had developed working on the GTO and together with the car body specialist Piero Drogo developed an aerodynamically advanced body, even lower than the GTO's, with the roof line dramatically extended to the rear end following Kamm aerodynamic theory. The resulting shooting-brake appearance led to the French press nicknaming it "La Camionnette" (little truck), while the English-speaking journalists called it the "Breadvan."[3][1].............

The rebodied Breadvan made its competition debut at the 1962 24 Hours of Le Mans. It quickly passed all Ferrari GTOs and was 7th overall during the 4th hour when a driveshaft failure caused its retirement. Results at other races proved the design's effectiveness, as the car won the GT class in two races during the 1962 season. ......................

Influence

The 250 GT SWB Breadvan's unusual but effective aerodynamics proved the Kamm tail design that would be used on many other racing cars, including the Ford J-car and the Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ...................

Similar shooting brake designs were used on later Ferrari concept cars and production cars such as the 456 GT Venice and the Ferrari FF.
Ferrari FF
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_FF



Do I want one?

Not really but I think it is interesting and would not call it ugly because I'm such a fan of aerodynamics.
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No.

It's not a Boxster.
It's not even a Panamera.

It's a 1991 Civic rear end, mated to a Porsche-something front, in someone's back yard, using bondo.
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I'll have to wait until I see the finished result.

Details matter.
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Agreed - prefer to see finished result before passing judgement.

Top engine access already appears difficult...
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Looks like a honda humping a boxster.
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Ugh. No.
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Or you can just choke up a bunch of money and get a 2018 Porsche Panamera Turbo Sport Turismo.
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"If you like a honda's humping boxsters, you'll FREAK when you see #4! We couldn't believe it either!!!!"

https://drivetribe.com/p/the-10-coolest-shooting-brakes-MEdcVBnFSJiIDY_FZcr_Tw?iid=I_nz_n-2QGay7Dn6WCuZzw

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The Volvo P1800 Station Wagon, as it seemed to be called, was a successful design but when I saw this I thought wow.

[IMG]https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/pictures-jaguar-xjs-1983-1-1513892391.jpg?resize=1600:*[/IMG]

I guess you'll have to copy and paste as I can't get it to show. On the 986 my jury is out on that.
Wagons are a hard sell, even harder when no back seat and the contents get heated up from the engine below.

This shooting-brake Boxster is the answer to a question that nobody asked.

I am however appreciative of the intellectual aspect of improved aerodynamics, if indeed there is any in this case.

As found by accident in one of my folders..........


From Zeke's IMG post.
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Looks like a hack job but I don’t hate the shape. But it would likely suck to work on.
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I'm reserving judgement until they wash the bondo dust off the rear window.
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As I understand it the regular maintenance on a Boxster is done from below.
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I like it. Basically they have built a mid engine hot hatch. I might be mistaken, but it looks like the hatch opens up into the roof, rather like a Dodge Magnum. That might improve access to the top of the engine.
I think they need to improve rearward three quarter visibility.
I must admit I thought of doing something similar on a Miata to improve utility.

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Looks like a hack job but I donít hate the shape. But it would likely suck to work on.
Judging by their webpage looks like what we see here is all foam and bondo at this point that'll they finish then use as a buck to make a mold for a composite shell
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I love wagons and want to like this but it's far too early to tell. Appreciate the air-cooled 911 quarter window but I'm but I'm not sure it resolves with the rest of the car's lines. And probably won't know until it's all one color. But definitely A for effort.
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Wagon is a wagon. Hatchback is a 2dr or 4dr sloped wagon. Shooting Brake is a 2dr sports car turned into a hatchback?

That small high rear hatch would be impractical except for a couple bags of groceries.
Unless the car is kept immaculately clean, every load would also require leaning over several feet of dirty wet bumper.
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Why? Because you can?

Not something I'd spend time making, for sure. There are plenty of good looking wagons and the boxster platform doesn't come to mind immediately for such a creation.

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shooting brake with mid engine is just retarded.
cant use the cargo space for much because there is no depth.
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Or you can just choke up a bunch of money and get a 2018 Porsche Panamera Turbo Sport Turismo.
Mmmmmm. I like it!

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