Tesla CyberTruck

[Brando]

Listening to Joe Rogan yesterday and reading about delivery services switching to EV... I think the next question is: Can the energy grid support EV vehicles? After-all, it's just displacing the pollution.

We need cheap modern nuclear to support a big shift to EVs.

[RWebb]

Who is Joe Rogan?

Will more electric cars cause the grid to crash? Matteo Muratori of the National Renewable Energy Lab took a look at that question recently and decided the answer is no. His research suggests the existing grid can cope just fine with more electric cars on the road. In fact, it can handle the demand that would occur if 25% of the cars on the road are electric. After that, system upgrades will be necessary, but we are a long way away from that 25% number right now and will be for many years to come.

Good luck getting nuke plants built...

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by RWebb

Who is Joe Rogan?

Will more electric cars cause the grid to crash? Matteo Muratori of the National Renewable Energy Lab took a look at that question recently and decided the answer is no. His research suggests the existing grid can cope just fine with more electric cars on the road. In fact, it can handle the demand that would occur if 25% of the cars on the road are electric. After that, system upgrades will be necessary, but we are a long way away from that 25% number right now and will be for many years to come.

Good luck getting nuke plants built...

I suspect it’s not as easy as that blanket answer. Some areas are largely tapped out on capacity while others would have plenty to spare. Ironically it’s the heavily urbanized areas that are a great fit for EV that also have electric grid issues.

One other note about EV, how many people are prepared to drop big money on a new car and then spend a few thousand to have a 220v or 440v charger installed in their garage?

[Racerbvd]

https://youtu.be/EAU01vhHMPw

[RWebb]

220V shouldn't be too bad

yes, local grid issues are likely; dunno how fine-grained the NREL study was

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

needs a Ragin' Cajuns bumper sticker

and some crawfish net traps strung along the sides

[pmax]

Lots of smart folks on utube !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0W1ZZYIV8o

[berettafan]

Originally Posted by RWebb

Who is Joe Rogan?

Will more electric cars cause the grid to crash? Matteo Muratori of the National Renewable Energy Lab took a look at that question recently and decided the answer is no. His research suggests the existing grid can cope just fine with more electric cars on the road. In fact, it can handle the demand that would occur if 25% of the cars on the road are electric. After that, system upgrades will be necessary, but we are a long way away from that 25% number right now and will be for many years to come.

Good luck getting nuke plants built...

That is in sharp contrast to my experience buying electricity for a municipality. Electricity is in limited supply and we see this evidenced when you hear those 'beat the peak' pleas in the summer time.

PS, electricity...ALL of it, not just what is used for cars, is gonna get a lot more expensive if demand goes up.

[berettafan]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

I suspect it’s not as easy as that blanket answer. Some areas are largely tapped out on capacity while others would have plenty to spare. Ironically it’s the heavily urbanized areas that are a great fit for EV that also have electric grid issues.

urban areas are a great fit for mass transportation. buses and trains. not thousands of electric cars. this is backwards thinking. the point of clustering people is to find efficiencies and this is the very opposite!

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by RWebb

220V shouldn't be too bad

yes, local grid issues are likely; dunno how fine-grained the NREL study was

I don’t have any idea how expensive the Supercharger box is for your garage, but if you have to have new service brought in from your electric box for 220v or 440v that could easily run $2k+. I work in aerospace engineering but am jealous of the rates that electricians charge.

[island911]

those rates... they are shocking.


cough

wait, what are we talking about?

oh, right, the Homermobile.

Honk!

[MMARSH]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

I suspect it’s not as easy as that blanket answer. Some areas are largely tapped out on capacity while others would have plenty to spare. Ironically it’s the heavily urbanized areas that are a great fit for EV that also have electric grid issues.

One other note about EV, how many people are prepared to drop big money on a new car and then spend a few thousand to have a 220v or 440v charger installed in their garage?

I spent 750 to have a outlet intalled.

[RWebb]

houses get a 220v feed - the costs vary due to how hard it is to get the 220 to where you want to charge the car

I'm a fan of the BMW range booster type hybrids partly for that reason & partly due to the extreme lack of gas stations in the Oregon outback (where I camp & mess around a lot)

[wayner]

Electrician friend is looking forward to electric Porsche customers

Tesla 3 customers squawk incessantly about the $3 -$5k installations

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by svandamme

except for tesla's won't drive into things
the brain will avoid crashing or running over peds.

Except firetrucks. They seem to like trucks.

[Scott R]

1 million "robo taxis" in about three weeks! Is everyone ready for them?

[Sooner or later]

Musk takes Cybertruck out for a spin. Takes out a pylon.

https://www.businessinsider.com/video-elon-musk-hits-traffic-sign-tesla-cybertruck-malibu-2019-12?utm_content=bufferb5c4a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer-cars&fbclid=IwAR2f4eJr2GcNnWlMT_M32z_4P-PQAWqLZep_rzYeoSzg28kuEwYd0VvVVN0


Elon Musk took Tesla's new Cybertruck out for a spin in Los Angeles on Saturday. During his drive, he took out a traffic pylon and made some other questionable driving decisions.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

Musk takes Cybertruck out for a spin. Takes out a pylon.

https://www.businessinsider.com/video-elon-musk-hits-traffic-sign-tesla-cybertruck-malibu-2019-12?utm_content=bufferb5c4a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer-cars&fbclid=IwAR2f4eJr2GcNnWlMT_M32z_4P-PQAWqLZep_rzYeoSzg28kuEwYd0VvVVN0


Elon Musk took Tesla's new Cybertruck out for a spin in Los Angeles on Saturday. During his drive, he took out a traffic pylon and made some other questionable driving decisions.

A big truck clipping a traffic pylon, sorry, not big news.

[chapo]

Must have been looking at his phone

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

Musk takes Cybertruck out for a spin. Takes out a pylon.

https://www.businessinsider.com/video-elon-musk-hits-traffic-sign-tesla-cybertruck-malibu-2019-12?utm_content=bufferb5c4a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer-cars&fbclid=IwAR2f4eJr2GcNnWlMT_M32z_4P-PQAWqLZep_rzYeoSzg28kuEwYd0VvVVN0


Elon Musk took Tesla's new Cybertruck out for a spin in Los Angeles on Saturday. During his drive, he took out a traffic pylon and made some other questionable driving decisions.

He's driving a vehicle without a front plate...