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cabmandone 12-04-2019 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 10678566)
Indeed your point is well taken. My biggest issue, personality wise is that it has taken a long time for me to get marginally comfortable with asking for, let alone needing help. I'm working on it but am nowhere near mastering it.
I think it's just something in men that we're accustomed to being the helper, not being the one that needs help. My dad absolutely refuses to call me for help even though I'm self employed and could be there in 15 minutes if he needs me. Don't remember if you said how old you are or not but my dad is 80 so I'm thinking the problem doesn't get better with age.

Por_sha911 12-04-2019 07:05 PM
Here's something to keep you entertained for a few minutes.
https://www.nhl.com/news/barrasso-among-stan-fischlers-best-goalies-not-in-hall-of-fame/c-312040420

Steve Carlton 12-04-2019 10:49 PM
Glad to hear it's looking good for you, flatty!

flatbutt 12-05-2019 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 10677412)
"why?" is an academic issue right now. Elective stenting is MUCH better than emergency stenting or a dude or dudette and an electric saw dividing your sternum and icing your pumpkin to full stop while a machine makes your blood square dance.

Which coronary artery?
the report says 50% stenosis in the mid right coronary artery:confused:

masraum 12-05-2019 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 10678120)
I guess one could argue that I am lucky from the following list of life events that have happened to me over my 54 years, My 9 lives !

1. Hit by a 45 mph locomotive in a Pinto in 1982 100 stitches to my face, and shoulder when pinned between the windshield, and rear window...no broken bones.
2. 1987 Hodgkins Lymphoma at age 23 with 6 months of daily radiation treatments
3. 1989 DVT blood clot in my chest from radiation treatments. week in the hospital.
4. 1992 Recurrence of Hodgkins 23 chemo treatments using ABVD drugs.
5. 2001 CHF cogestive heart failure by the use of Adriamicin in "A"BVD cancer drugs.
6. 2007 recurrence of CHF
7. 2013 Speeding drunk runs stop sign into the side of my Porsche...17 broken bones, lacerated liver 6 months off work learning to walk again
8. 2013 Blood clots in both legs from being static after accident.
9. 2017 New pacemaker/defib from failing heart, IGG4 disorder 25 chemo treatments (&) kidney function reduction all at the same time.

I still live an active life, and work hard at my job, and at home on the farm after all this, but some consider me lucky (and out of available lives).

Flatbutt...please note #9...you can imagine how many doctors I have had to tolerate, don't mess with your health !
Wow, I'm guessing the "c" in your screen name stands for Cat, because you've certainly had 9 lives. Glad that you're still with us. I think M Night Shamalamalamy (or something like that) made a movie about you, "Unbreakable".

Were you around when Johnco (I'm pretty sure that was his name) was a poster here? I think he installed swimming pools in Louisiana near New Orleans. He's also unbreakable (hopefully, I don't think he's posted in a while).

Jim Bremner 12-05-2019 09:28 AM
Glad that you're still consuming oxygen!

pwd72s 12-05-2019 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10678700)
I think it's just something in men that we're accustomed to being the helper, not being the one that needs help. My dad absolutely refuses to call me for help even though I'm self employed and could be there in 15 minutes if he needs me. Don't remember if you said how old you are or not but my dad is 80 so I'm thinking the problem doesn't get better with age.
I'm 76. It doesn't. Hate asking for help...especially when it's for something I did easily in previous years.

ckelly78z 12-05-2019 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10679237)
Wow, I'm guessing the "c" in your screen name stands for Cat, because you've certainly had 9 lives. Glad that you're still with us. I think M Night Shamalamalamy (or something like that) made a movie about you, "Unbreakable".

Were you around when Johnco (I'm pretty sure that was his name) was a poster here? I think he installed swimming pools in Louisiana near New Orleans. He's also unbreakable (hopefully, I don't think he's posted in a while).
I'm tired of being unbreakable, but it is true "What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger" !

cabmandone 12-05-2019 03:55 PM
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wdfifteen 12-05-2019 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 10678120)
I guess one could argue that I am lucky from the following list of life events that have happened to me over my 54 years, My 9 lives !

1. Hit by a 45 mph locomotive in a Pinto in 1982 100 stitches to my face, and shoulder when pinned between the windshield, and rear window...no broken bones.
2. 1987 Hodgkins Lymphoma at age 23 with 6 months of daily radiation treatments
3. 1989 DVT blood clot in my chest from radiation treatments. week in the hospital.
4. 1992 Recurrence of Hodgkins 23 chemo treatments using ABVD drugs.
5. 2001 CHF cogestive heart failure by the use of Adriamicin in "A"BVD cancer drugs.
6. 2007 recurrence of CHF
7. 2013 Speeding drunk runs stop sign into the side of my Porsche...17 broken bones, lacerated liver 6 months off work learning to walk again
8. 2013 Blood clots in both legs from being static after accident.
9. 2017 New pacemaker/defib from failing heart, IGG4 disorder 25 chemo treatments (&) kidney function reduction all at the same time.

I still live an active life, and work hard at my job, and at home on the farm after all this, but some consider me lucky (and out of available lives).

Adds new meaning to the word "survivor." If I come here to whine about the pain of arthritis, please, someone direct me to this post.
Be well my friend.

Captain Ahab Jr 12-05-2019 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 10679618)
I'm tired of being unbreakable, but it is true "What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger" !
In some cases you could say "What kills you, makes you stronger"

I met up with a very good friend today from my previous life, was so good to see him and we really belly laughed as soon as I said "When I was dead" while discussing what each of us had been up to since we last met :D

I'm so pleased flatbutt listened to the excellent advice given, modern medicine and doctors if given the chance can perform miracles on tough old dudes like us :cool:

Bob Kontak 12-05-2019 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 10679156)
the report says 50% stenosis in the mid right coronary artery:confused:
What do they want you to do?

madcorgi 12-05-2019 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 10679156)
the report says 50% stenosis in the mid right coronary artery:confused:
So . . . is it half full, or half empty? Personality test.

Flatbutt . . . listen to docs . . .

or Flatbutt = Flatline.

Jim Richards 12-05-2019 06:51 PM
Yeah. Flatbutt no flatline, ok? SmileWavy

ckelly78z 12-06-2019 03:12 AM
As much as I hate going to 3 specialists on a quarterly basis, I have taught them all to work together on treatments/prescriptions, so the side effects are minimal.

Flatbutt, you will have to through some testing/waiting/worrying, and uncomfortable procedures, but they have your best interest in mind...good luck !

flatbutt 12-06-2019 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 10679657)
What do they want you to do?
Nothing communicated to me yet. Cardiologist said he didn't think it was worth any action especially stenting so he left it alone. No rehab or lifestyle changes recommended.

Here are my numbers Cholesterol 185
Triglucerides 101
HDL 46
LDL 118
Hemoglobin 12.6
Troponin 0.019

So Im home, have a follow up scheduled for next week but IDK WTF is really happening with my ticker.

I appreciate your input , well wishes and ball busting! Now I need to rummage around for the gift exchange.

Sooner or later 12-06-2019 07:20 AM
Better a flatbutt than a flatline.

Glad you're home!

pavulon 12-06-2019 08:29 AM
Did you receive a "clot buster" when you went to the ER?

flatbutt 12-06-2019 09:37 AM
"Did you receive a "clot buster" when you went to the ER?" Yes, and two shots of Heparin.

Zeke, My diet is lean protein like chicken and fish, very rarely beef. I have a green salad at least once a day sometimes twice. The only fried food I eat is my breakfast, eggs in olive oil. I'm low carb, but when I eat bread it's whole grain. I've been going easy on fruit because of the sugar, baked goods because of the fats. My exercise is limited due to my spinal cord injury but I do exercise moderately and do not spend my days on the couch.

So I don't what the heck is going on. Maybe shoveling snow is too acute an activity whereas my bicycling isn't? I just don't know what I can do differently. Hoping the follow up sheds more light on it.

bivenator 12-06-2019 09:49 AM
I would say a coronary spasm is possible. Your symptoms were a bit longer lived than a coronary spasm is usually associated with but it it something to consider.

Glad you are here to tell the tale and wish you all the luck in the coming days.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/angina/expert-answers/coronary-artery-spasm/faq-20058316

ckelly78z 12-06-2019 10:04 AM
Shoveling snow strains the heart, the lungs, and the muscles, so many folks don't realize how strenuous it actually is until it's too late.

Bicycling is a fluid motion, that you can adjust your input level accordingly if you start getting fatigued.

Seahawk 12-06-2019 01:28 PM
Good news. Great news.

Steady as she goes, Flat...mind your helm.

cabmandone 12-06-2019 03:26 PM
Paul
I thought "Mind your stern" would be better. :)

flatbutt 12-06-2019 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10680632)
Paul
I thought "Mind your stern" would be better. :)
HAHAHAHA! You guys!

pavulon 12-06-2019 04:07 PM
It may help you to understand what happened by searching out how atherosclerosis plaque rupture and angina go together. Long story short, plaques can rupture when stressed and the ruptured areas attract the materials which form clots. The clots impede blood flow. Clot busters restore blood flow and anticoagulants (heparin...) discourage the problem from reoccurring.

SCadaddle 12-06-2019 09:47 PM
Must have been "catching" as we say around here.

27 1/2 hours (including 9 hours in the ER waiting room) after first feeling like an elephant on my chest and a BP of 165/105 this past Sunday into Monday, I wound up getting a stent in the one of two 100% closed arteries they could open Tuesday morning. The other one couldn't be budged. Probably require open heart surgery when I get the bill.

Crowbob 12-06-2019 09:55 PM
I'm not reading any more of this thread.

flatbutt 12-07-2019 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SCadaddle (Post 10680952)
Must have been "catching" as we say around here.

27 1/2 hours (including 9 hours in the ER waiting room) after first feeling like an elephant on my chest and a BP of 165/105 this past Sunday into Monday, I wound up getting a stent in the one of two 100% closed arteries they could open Tuesday morning. The other one couldn't be budged. Probably require open heart surgery when I get the bill.
Sorry to hear bro, all best for quick healing.

Jim Richards 12-07-2019 07:34 AM
Yikes! Flatbutt, SCadaddle, you guys take care of yourselves. Maybe PP can get you a deal on any (body) parts you may need. The tech forum should be good for r&r advice. We’re here for you guys!

SCadaddle 12-07-2019 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 10681133)
Yikes! Flatbutt, SCadaddle, you guys take care of yourselves. Maybe PP can get you a deal on any (body) parts you may need. The tech forum should be good for r&r advice. We’re here for you guys!
In my instance it took the Doctor and his staff 2 1/2 hours to look at things with the heart cath and after giving up on the one artery installing the stent in the other one. Seemed like 30 minutes to me, what do I know as I was the customer, and probably 9 out of 10 surgeons agree it is easier to perform a heart cath than it is to replace the fuel lines through the tunnel of a 911. :D

Jim Richards 12-07-2019 09:04 AM
Seriously, who only does half a valve job? :confused:

:D

flatbutt 01-02-2020 11:01 AM
Well the first invoice arrived and yes insurance payed up, but what a doozy.

The ambulance billed $6600 dollars for the service and $990 for mileage (15 miles from home to the hospital), as if mileage couldn't be covered in the $6600.

masraum 01-02-2020 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SCadaddle (Post 10680952)
Must have been "catching" as we say around here.

27 1/2 hours (including 9 hours in the ER waiting room) after first feeling like an elephant on my chest and a BP of 165/105 this past Sunday into Monday, I wound up getting a stent in the one of two 100% closed arteries they could open Tuesday morning. The other one couldn't be budged. Probably require open heart surgery when I get the bill.
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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 10706138)
Well the first invoice arrived and yes insurance payed up, but what a doozy.

The ambulance billed $6600 dollars for the service and $990 for mileage (15 miles from home to the hospital), as if mileage couldn't be covered in the $6600.
Glad you're both still around to deal with the bills!

Now, both of you go have a kale, avocado, flax seed and wheatgrass smoothie for us.

pavulon 01-02-2020 03:39 PM
It's absurd but your insurance company paid no where near those rates. Yet, without insurance, you would.

Quote:
Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 10706138)
Well the first invoice arrived and yes insurance payed up, but what a doozy.

The ambulance billed $6600 dollars for the service and $990 for mileage (15 miles from home to the hospital), as if mileage couldn't be covered in the $6600.

Tobra 01-02-2020 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 10680330)
So I don't what the heck is going on. Maybe shoveling snow is too acute an activity whereas my bicycling isn't? I just don't know what I can do differently. Hoping the follow up sheds more light on it.
One is anaerobic activity and the other is aerobic activity.


Stay out of the weight room
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Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 10681215)
Seriously, who only does half a valve job? :confused:

:D
It is called practice management Jim.

Also, they probably only pay 50% of allowed on second procedure, 25% on third and maybe 0% on the fourth.

tevake 01-02-2020 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 10706499)
It's absurd but your insurance company paid no where near those rates. Yet, without insurance, you would.
This really get to me as a cash customer. The insured patients require someone in the office to deal with the paperwork, then the Dr's wait for the insurance to respond with a significantly reduced payment.
While the cash customer pays on the spot and still gets to pay full fare.
Seems crazy to me.

So glad that Flatbutt and Scaddle both got to the hospital in time and are on the mend, hang in there guys.

Cheers Richard

pavulon 01-02-2020 06:38 PM
My retired, 60 yo, single neighbor managed to get plunked by a car awhile back. He did a month in the hospital and is mentally a bit scrambled still as well has mending several fractures and broken teeth. He'll have more surgery in due time. He has no health insurance. It is unclear if the driver was at fault as my neighbor was walking at night in dark clothing and not in a crosswalk. Although my neighbor is convinced that he will pay zero $$, he does not understand that he will pay a lawyer a LOT and may well collect zilch on top of the million dollar hospital bill coming soon. :rolleyes:

flatbutt 02-01-2020 07:57 AM
I'm still here and feeling good. Here are two follow up items:

First, the one night stay ran up a hospital total of $38400. Medicare paid $8604, I pay $330. So where did the $29465 go? The hospital eats it? Or is the $38K just a ridiculous charge?

Second, the cardiologist recommended a nuclear stress test but medicare won't pay for it so no go. But the Dr has dropped me completely! I've tried to get some guidance on what I should be doing for rehab if any but they're not returning my calls. WTF?

I'm not egregiously stupid so I'm taking it easy trying to recondition my heart but dayum I wouldn't mind some expert guidance.

sc_rufctr 02-01-2020 08:55 AM
Go and see your regular doctor. He may be able to recommend a new cardiologist.

masraum 02-01-2020 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 10738376)
I'm still here and feeling good. Here are two follow up items:

First, the one night stay ran up a hospital total of $38400. Medicare paid $8604, I pay $330. So where did the $29465 go? The hospital eats it? Or is the $38K just a ridiculous charge?

Second, the cardiologist recommended a nuclear stress test but medicare won't pay for it so no go. But the Dr has dropped me completely! I've tried to get some guidance on what I should be doing for rehab if any but they're not returning my calls. WTF?

I'm not egregiously stupid so I'm taking it easy trying to recondition my heart but dayum I wouldn't mind some expert guidance.
Most folks first reaction would be to gripe about the medical field and say how it's all a big scam, but I don't think that's the case. Are there abuses, sure, find me any field or any place that doesn't have abuses. More likely there are problems that need solutions. I remember the thread(s) from Tobra about spending lots of time treating the drug addict with the serious problems that was never going to be anything more than a waste of time and money spent, but it had to be done. Then there's the insurance and systems of law that exacerbated the issue, but at the same time are there for a valid reason.

We just glad that you are still around and were taken care of. Now you just need to find someone to give you some advice.


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