The Threat of 5G

[sc_rufctr]

"5G You can't opt out"... Am I being paranoid?

(Border line PARF)

[Por_sha911]

"border on"?
I bet you've used the phrase "slightly pregnant"

[greglepore]

Bull. 5g is inevitable because the modern world will depend on it, like it or not. Each device is going to talk to other devices (most especially autonomous vehicles) which, like it or not, is going to be the next tech leap and requires wireless ip addressable bandwidth. Stringing cable/fiber/ whatever physically will become a thing of the stone age. Yeah, it might equalize some global economics in unfavorable geopolitcal ways, but its happening, and its not nefarious. Get a horse.

[stealthn]

The bigger concern is will the police be allowed to eavesdrop...

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by greglepore

Get a horse.

a sub-6 horse or a mm horse??

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by greglepore

Bull. 5g is inevitable because the modern world will depend on it, like it or not. Each device is going to talk to other devices (most especially autonomous vehicles) which, like it or not, is going to be the next tech leap and requires wireless ip addressable bandwidth. Stringing cable/fiber/ whatever physically will become a thing of the stone age. Yeah, it might equalize some global economics in unfavorable geopolitcal ways, but its happening, and its not nefarious. Get a horse.

Inevitable for sure but is it ethical?

Do you think it's OK to have facial recognition cameras in every public place?
Right now you can opt out by not using a smart phone. In the near future YOU wont have that option.

Your face will be in a database like it or not.

I'm not OK with that because we all know what Governments are capable of.

[Crowbob]

Originally Posted by greglepore

Bull. 5g is inevitable because the modern world will depend on it, like it or not. Each device is going to talk to other devices (most especially autonomous vehicles) which, like it or not, is going to be the next tech leap and requires wireless ip addressable bandwidth. Stringing cable/fiber/ whatever physically will become a thing of the stone age. Yeah, it might equalize some global economics in unfavorable geopolitcal ways, but its happening, and its not nefarious. Get a horse.

Not nefarious?

Recently, the FBI issued a warning regarding the ability of smart TV's to constantly, if necessary or intermittently for fun, monitor YOU in real time (via video and audio) without your consent or knowledge and that these TV's will always be vulnerable to being hacked by anybody, including governments foreign or domestic.

Why would anybody want to monitor poor old innocent you who has nothing to hide? To equalize some global economies in unfavorable geopolitical ways, perhaps?

Yes. it is coming. One day you get in your car like normal, turn the key, push the button or simply tell it to start and...nothing. You say, 'Hunnh, weird.' So you get out (if not locked in) go back into your smart house and figure out what to do next. The lights don't work, no heat (or air), no electricity...nothing.

Knock, knock...

[KFC911]

Who's there?

I DO have a tin foil hat...but even that doesn't foil "them"...but I'm paranoid and do try....seriously.

Come on back outside CB.....at least the lights and heat work about half the time here...for free

[Crowbob]

HA!

...'The government

'The government who?

'The govenernment that wants to help...

[Jims5543]

I am ready to scramble my brains for faster cel phone signals. Bring it!! LOL!

We use our smart phones here at work as wifi hotspots for some of our equipment to function, we need to be able to connect to a server and transfer data non stop while using it in the field. I purchased these Motorola USB dongles that work at lightning speed, except they can be temperamental. We are still trying to figure out why they randomly turn off or reset. when that happens it throws our equipment into a tailspin.

We tend to use our Cel phones and just turn on the hotspot. I had a guy working for me that was paranoid as hell about everything. He was a Marine vet. He would not put his cel phone in his pocket (carried in duffel bag) he would not hold it to his head, he always used speaker phone. When we were in the work truck he kept it as far away from him as possible. I always wondered if he was on to something. Then he would talk about con trails and fake moon missions and I would ignore his antics.


Re: Smart TV's I never connect mine to the wifi, I only use them as monitors, as a matter of fact my son and I were recently discussing this, back in the early 2000's when plasma TV's came out, I had found an affordable 42" that had no sound, it was basically a giant monitor.

I have never looked, I would prefer the simplicity of a TV / monitor without all the BS loaded into it.

Years ago someone posted a pic of Zuckerborg with his laptop, he had tape over the camera and the mic. I did the same to my laptops after seeing that.

[greglepore]

You keep the phone away from you due to rf (its pinging all the time) not because it can read your mind.

Yes, this tech is capable of tremendous abuse. But its coming, and we should have a discussion about it. We are behind, miles behind, in its development. We should be in the forefront, in both development and intellectualizing.
FWIW, the "phone in your pocket" is capable of much of this. Yes it is in theory a private device, but not private to you, private to you and the provider.

[KFC911]

Of course any data collected is for sale....and will be

[Jims5543]

Originally Posted by greglepore

You keep the phone away from you due to rf (its pinging all the time) not because it can read your mind.

Yes, this tech is capable of tremendous abuse. But its coming, and we should have a discussion about it. We are behind, miles behind, in its development. We should be in the forefront, in both development and intellectualizing.
FWIW, the "phone in your pocket" is capable of much of this. Yes it is in theory a private device, but not private to you, private to you and the provider.

I am screwed, I carry 2 cel phones on me, a personal and work phone.

The work phone is typically in my back pocket with the hot spot turned on while I am in the field working. The other one is in my front pocket.

I use both heavily all day in the field. I sometimes laugh, I miss the good old days when I was cut off from the world when I was working in the field.

Although it is nice to be able to react to a client in a moments notice when they have a fire to put out. We use the tech available to change the way we work. I have responded to and fixed a clients problem in an hour or two when in the old days it would take 1-2 days.

All our devices can send data and notes via email back to the office, what we are working on in the field can be completed by the time we get back to the office.

We even take noted on a device called a Remarkable, it has the ability to take our hand written notes, turn them into a pdf and email them out.

[greglepore]

Worry more about Ring. Americans voluntarily creating a surveillance network. On Amazon's servers.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zmjp53/how-ring-went-from-shark-tank-reject-to-americas-scariest-surveillance-company?utm_source=pocket-newtab

[Deschodt]

Heard last night on the radio: 5G is 20% performance gain (only, real life) , and 80% marketing hype.

Not sure if that's true but it was a funny formula.

[greglepore]

What is being hyped as 5g rollout isn't really, yet. The standards aren't even final, and the inital trials found hardware issues in the real world. Spectrum auctions by the fcc for old cband frequencies haven't occurred. The format was more or less just set a couple weeks ago.

When it really rolls out, it'll be a massive change, at least in urban environments.

[john70t]

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[Bigtoe32067]

Oh well no more affairs because they’ll sell the data to the girls husband showing you at his house for two hours yesterday while he was at work.

Wonder what they’d charge for that?

Does he get an alternative to jail after he killls the two of them? Maybe just anger management.

It’d be fun to sit right outside the city’s and take out the cameras with sniper rifles.

Tony

[RWebb]

5G energizes the magnetite in your brain - causes insanity

PROOF: many anti-5Gers are also anti-vaxers

[VincentVega]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

"5G You can't opt out"... Am I being paranoid?

(Border line PARF)

I hope everyone realizes this is propaganda/BS. Just enough fact and pretty close to reality to sound legit at times but... please, dont trust this source.