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Scott Douglas 12-15-2019 01:58 PM

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rfuerst911sc 12-15-2019 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10689400)
Thank you, Scott. Why can't I do that?

Because you are a skilled Craftsman not a computer weenie 😀

masraum 12-15-2019 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10689423)
Because you are a skilled Craftsman not a computer weenie 😀

Good answer. If it required use of hand scrapers, hand planes, saws, etc..., Milt would be all over it.

Scott Douglas 12-15-2019 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10689400)
Thank you, Scott. Why can't I do that?

You're welcome. Just trying to be helpful. And I'm not a computer weenie. Far from it.

masraum 12-15-2019 05:45 PM

I found this Closet Design Guide for New Construction PDF that has some good information and tips and talks about everything from walk-in closets to reach in, kids' closets, pantries, linen, and even garage storage.

A930Rocket 12-15-2019 06:06 PM

RH outswing door with pick proof hinges.

Outlets every 4’ as mentioned.

LED strip lights low around perimeter for low work.

Pull down/out locking extension cord reel.

Air compressor? Run lines around walls with couplings ever 4-6’, etc. Enclose the air compressor.

How tall is the ceiling? Room for a 2/4 post lift or scissor lift?

madcorgi 12-16-2019 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10689400)
Thank you, Scott. Why can't I do that?

Wait--I like it better the other way.

masraum 12-16-2019 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 10689605)
RH outswing door with pick proof hinges.

Outlets every 4’ as mentioned.

LED strip lights low around perimeter for low work.

Pull down/out locking extension cord reel.

Air compressor? Run lines around walls with couplings ever 4-6’, etc. Enclose the air compressor.

How tall is the ceiling? Room for a 2/4 post lift or scissor lift?

No idea on the ceiling height right now. I didn't measure and likely won't be able to for quite a while. I do like the idea of plenty of outlets, a cord reel, and a plumbed in air compressor.

jwasbury 12-17-2019 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 10688931)
First- great looking court yard.

I can think of several garage door options. You could use bi-folds or slide by doors. But the option I like best is an awning door like an airplane hanger. The main reason is when it is open it functions as an awning extending your work space. It provides shade from the sun or protection from weather. In the event you need to temporarily extend your space you could quickly erect false walls cover in plastic and you have a temporary enclosure.

I looked at and priced airplane hanger doors for my garage. https://www.bifold.com/

The pricing was actually very good and a hydraulic "awning" door was my top choice...until I consulted a structural engineer who estimated I needed $20k of steel framing to reinforce the garage to handle the loads placed on it by the top hinged swing out door. Bear in mind that I required no structural framing in the center of the building that would interfere with my lift. I'm sure the structure could have been braced for much less $ had this not been a requirement.

The door schematics from the manufacturer were loaded with warnings to consult an engineer to insure that your building was built/designed to withstand the loads placed on it by the door. I'm glad I did.

drcoastline 12-18-2019 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jwasbury (Post 10691234)
I looked at and priced airplane hanger doors for my garage. https://www.bifold.com/

The pricing was actually very good and a hydraulic "awning" door was my top choice...until I consulted a structural engineer who estimated I needed $20k of steel framing to reinforce the garage to handle the loads placed on it by the top hinged swing out door. Bear in mind that I required no structural framing in the center of the building that would interfere with my lift. I'm sure the structure could have been braced for much less $ had this not been a requirement.

The door schematics from the manufacturer were loaded with warnings to consult an engineer to insure that your building was built/designed to withstand the loads placed on it by the door. I'm glad I did.

We don't know what system or mechanism you were using or the structural integrity of your building, but $20K in structural work seems excessive for the typical door opening. This system pictured simply needs a solid header to bolt the top of the frame and solid jack studs to bolt the side frames. As you can see the load is carried by the door frame it's self.

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masraum 12-18-2019 05:52 PM

Wow, loaded up with what I assume is a bunch of engineered stone too.

Tobra 12-18-2019 07:06 PM

I bet that seals up tight too

I like the way the windows are finished across the bottom

jwasbury 12-19-2019 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 10692412)
We don't know what system or mechanism you were using or the structural integrity of your building, but $20K in structural work seems excessive for the typical door opening. This system pictured simply needs a solid header to bolt the top of the frame and solid jack studs to bolt the side frames. As you can see the load is carried by the door frame it's self.

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I was looking at Schweiss products. This is a 16' x 8' opening, and a 100% masonry single story structure built approximately 1910-1920. The quote from Schweiss was loaded with warnings about insuring the building was up to structural loads from the door (including wind loads when opening/closing). The $20k figure was a seat of pants estimate from the structural engineer I hired to assess my building, so I take it with a grain of salt, but bottom line is a professional structural engineer advised that structural steel was required to properly support this door. Because my design requirement was to leave the ceiling open for lift clearance, the engineer assumed that the additional framing would have to run along the inside walls of the building. If my building was taller, I'm sure it would have been a simple matter of additional framing members across the ceiling to brace the "box". As it stands, my 20x20 box is effectively free standing and is not cross braced by the full hip roof framing, which basically sits like a "cover" on top of the box. YMMV, but for me there was going to be additional expense in making the hanger door work, and the total cost would be at least 3x-4x what the horizontal door I eventually chose cost.

aschen 12-19-2019 09:07 AM

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I have one of these glide top sheds for shovels, lawn equipment, ladders, kids bikes etc. Not sure if you have room for it but definitely is nice for keeping junk out of the garage.

I also have a maxjax mx 6 your garage would accommodate that perfectly with one of the posts in the work area. It is not too intrusive and relatively easily un bolted if wanted

masraum 12-19-2019 02:04 PM

Unfortunately, things fell through when negotiating allowances. This is not going to be our place. I would have gone ahead, but it bothered the missus and if we lived there, the knowledge of the issues would always be like a splinter in her brain. I want to keep a happy wife, so we'll move on to something different.

tcar 12-20-2019 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10693055)
Wow, loaded up with what I assume is a bunch of engineered stone too.

...which is pretty light weight.

BK911 12-20-2019 03:31 PM

Garage recepticles at 4' aff.
I put mine at 8' apart, but all are quads.
Also lots of wall/ceiling mounted shelves down the left side.

I see you've moved on, but for future reference.

Also, didn't see "help with kitchen" or bath thread.
Straight to the important stuff, ehh?

masraum 12-20-2019 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BK911 (Post 10695070)
Garage recepticles at 4' aff.
I put mine at 8' apart, but all are quads.
Also lots of wall/ceiling mounted shelves down the left side.

I see you've moved on, but for future reference.

Also, didn't see "help with kitchen" or bath thread.
Straight to the important stuff, ehh?

Yeah, I have/had a kitchen thread too. But yes, I also was getting right to the important stuff.

We've got another house slightly on our radar (it's really much larger than we need), but IT HAS A 4 CAR GARAGE. If that works out...

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David 12-21-2019 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10695077)
Yeah, I have/had a kitchen thread too. But yes, I also was getting right to the important stuff.

We've got another house slightly on our radar (it's really much larger than we need), but IT HAS A 4 CAR GARAGE. If that works out...

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You found a 4 car car garage in the city?

masraum 12-22-2019 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 10695807)
You found a 4 car car garage in the city?

No, it's back out in the 'burbs near the grandkids.


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