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RWebb 02-13-2020 04:21 PM

John Browning
 
He started at 13 (don't know what the design was - maybe a copy of his father's designs?), and he died at his workshop bench while designing a gun, 71 years old.

In between he revolutionized firearms design.

ok, I'll let Jeff take over from there...

Bill Douglas 02-13-2020 04:23 PM

Someone had to.

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mjohnson 02-13-2020 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 10751953)

The Browning museum at the Ogden UT train depot is worth a visit. I think it was free, or nearly so. The (matured) cranks volunteering there are more than happy to talk your ear off on any related subject...

Jeff Higgins 02-13-2020 05:29 PM

Rumor has it that it all started with the 1874 Sharps falling block, side hammer single shot. Young Mr. Browning was inspecting one in his father's gunsmithing shop and said something like "what a POS. I could do better than that". So, his father said "show me".

Thus was born the Browning 1878, also a falling block single shot, but with a central hammer, and of much trimmer design. This rifle caught the eye of the folks at Winchester, who sent a representative out to meet Mr. Browning. Winchester wound up buying the design and hiring Mr. Browning. With a little bit of redesign, the rifle began to be sold as the Winchester Model 1885, also known as the "High Wall" some years later, when a somewhat trimmer version was introduced, but kept the same "1885" model designation.

Here is my original, first year production example. It's chambered in a Sharps cartridge, the .40-70 Sharps Straight. It's wonderfully accurate with a 400 grain bullet from a Buffalo Arms mold, seated over 70 grains of Swiss 1.5 Fg black powder. Shown with a .30-'06 round for comparison:

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looneybin 02-13-2020 06:26 PM

I have a boat load of pics i took at the browning museum in Ogden,
His son also collected cars
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looneybin 02-13-2020 06:30 PM

Moarhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1581647284.jpg
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looneybin 02-13-2020 06:32 PM

Some more pleasehttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1581647474.jpg
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looneybin 02-13-2020 06:35 PM

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looneybin 02-13-2020 06:39 PM

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looneybin 02-13-2020 06:42 PM

And his cars

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dmcummins 02-13-2020 06:42 PM

I’ve got a few browning designs. Here is my 1885 target rifle.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1581647975.jpg

According to a Winchester historian, mine was the first rim fire made in this model. It’s a 22 short caliber.

looneybin 02-13-2020 06:44 PM

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looneybin 02-13-2020 06:47 PM

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masraum 02-13-2020 06:48 PM

Ogden Utah feels a bit like Australia. :D

looneybin 02-13-2020 06:50 PM

And some trains outsidehttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1581648481.jpg
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looneybin 02-13-2020 06:54 PM

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looneybin 02-13-2020 06:56 PM

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MBAtarga 02-13-2020 07:06 PM

Ashamed all those pics are upside down :(

dmcummins 02-14-2020 02:04 AM

I’m going to put this place on my list of places I need to see.

ckelly78z 02-14-2020 02:42 AM

Wow looks like a neat place to visit, i'll take my anti-gravity shoes though !

GH85Carrera 02-14-2020 07:38 AM

I got a crick in my neck trying to look at those pictures.

looneybin 02-14-2020 09:25 AM

WELL, they weren't upside down last night when i posted them
did the poles shift?

can the mods fix that???
(the pics not the poles)

Dantilla 02-14-2020 10:03 AM

Crap.

Drove through Ogden two weeks ago, had no idea.

Bill Douglas 02-14-2020 10:34 AM

They're not upside down on my computer. they're just right. Mind you I do live down under.

looneybin 02-14-2020 12:34 PM

Funny, they’re not upside down on my iPad
Just on the desktop

RWebb 02-14-2020 03:18 PM

Here's a 'tater digger doing its thing (I think he is aiming at a Maxim...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFP-ZAlyRgg

Jeff Higgins 02-16-2020 04:36 PM

Here is a great animation on how the "potato digger" works. Pretty ingenious, really.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7j8UQNPlhsY" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

id10t 02-16-2020 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by looneybin (Post 10752643)
WELL, they weren't upside down last night when i posted them
did the poles shift?

can the mods fix that???
(the pics not the poles)

It is the exif data on the photos - your ipad viewer rotates properly, browser on desktops don't.

RWebb 02-17-2020 11:51 AM

is it time to talk about the Auto-5 yet?

I had 2 (20 & 12) but will agree they are not nearly as pretty as an over & under

Seahawk 02-17-2020 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 10755643)
is it time to talk about the Auto-5 yet?

Auto 5's are as ugly as a mud fence, until you are Goose hunting on the Potomac.

Amazing shotgun. I have two. Why did you sell? Pretty means zippy in the field, btw.

RWebb 02-17-2020 12:05 PM

I wasn't doing any bird hunting so sold them.

If you work on your skills you don't need 5 shots anyway (for hunting)...

Here's some more info on it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browning_Auto-5

Yes, when a shotgun has its own wiki, you know it is significant...

Seahawk 02-17-2020 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 10755658)
If you work on your skills you don't need 5 shots anyway (for hunting)...

We actually hunt and shoot, a lot. Come to my farm and shoot, test your skills. It won't work out the way you think. You are welcome any time.

Maryland limits hunters to three rounds and requires a plug to limit the number of rounds.

I have never loaded more than two rounds for any bird hunts.

If you want to work on your skills, like I said, we're here.

Jim Bremner 02-17-2020 01:07 PM

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I have a 1911 & the model 11 from 1919 with a factory riot barrel. I do need to buy more JMB designed items

flipper35 02-17-2020 02:28 PM

Dad has a Savage "Browning Patent" as he calls it.

mjohnson 02-17-2020 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 10752668)
Crap.

Drove through Ogden two weeks ago, had no idea.

The free air museum at Hill AFB would also have been worth a visit...

;)

Jim Bremner 02-17-2020 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 10755829)
Dad has a Savage "Browning Patent" as he calls it.

Is it an aluminum one or steel?

Bill Douglas 02-20-2020 08:15 PM

If I get to Arizona or Utah, I'm going to one of those shoot 'em up places and let rip with a Browning M2.


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