It's interesting, at least to me, that our use of GTM may be driven by nothing more than routine.

I'm going to look at, and use, some of the alternatives mentioned here.

Thanks, folks.

We used Zoom last night for a musicians social meeting and it seemed to work fine with 7 people. I have no experience with any others so cannot offer a comparison.

We use microsoft teams. Its been rock solid. Audio and Video quality are perfect.
We dont use Skype anymore cause it was really bad with drop audio or video for no reason.

You can get Microsoft Teams, I believe is free nowadays

We use Office, but to meet with outside vendors and construction meetings we don't want to limit it.

We are going to give Zoom a try. They have a year subscription through Tech Soup much cheaper than the others as well if we like it.

I know this was posted elsewhere, but it belongs here!

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TIL Zoom has attention tracking features.
Apparently they're not difficult to defeat.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7kzq5x/looping-videos-to-fake-paying-attention-in-zoom-meetings

The tape over my camera works for me.
We use Webex at work, even though we use O365.
A lot of our vendors have switched to Zoom.
MS Teams, use it once and it sets itself to load every time you boot up, and they do it in a couple of places so it isn't trivial to disable it again. Attend another teams meeting and it sets itself to load again. Teams, at least how we've been using it, has no provision to dial in from a phone, you have to be on the app. As I've been working from home I often like to use the cell phone for audio, to save my limited bandwidth for screen sharing.

My work PC has no web cam or microphone so phone audio is a must.

No need for tape. Just turn is the camera using "stop camera"

Which is fine with Zoom. I've been using Zoom for 2 weeks on my personal cell, so I have either audio or video. I haven't tried to use it on my PC, and won't be.

I was replying to Rockfan about Teams not having the provision as the way they are setup.

It looks like all the local doctors doing telehealth will be using Zoom to talk to our residents.

I try to keep everything off my personal cell, but I do have VPN and RDP in case I get called while out and about.