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sugarwood 04-15-2020 08:50 AM

Why was Step/Tiptronic given no respect like PDK ?
 
Viscous coupling. Viscous coupling. Viscous coupling.

Ahh, sheddep....

....Who cares? My old Tip car worked fine.
Was able to keep it in a low gear like I would a manual.
No grown adult is racer boy on public roads xcept Magnus.

onewhippedpuppy 04-15-2020 09:04 AM

Ask a question just to answer it? Odd.

How about neither one is as fun as a true manual gearbox.:D

McLovin 04-15-2020 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 10825483)
[I] My old Tip car worked fine.
Was able to keep it in a low gear like I would a manual.
No grown adult is racer boy on public roads xcept Magnus.

That’s the same as any automatic transmission from the last 70 years.
“Tiptronic” didn’t advance anything significant in automatic transmission technology (other than a kind of cool name). So it’s not thought of much.

Scott Douglas 04-15-2020 09:53 AM

Probably for the same reason Sportomatic wasn't given any respect.

GH85Carrera 04-15-2020 10:07 AM

PDK is magical and can read the driver's mind.
Tiptronic is just a gussied up automatic.

Deschodt 04-15-2020 10:21 AM

I suspect Sugarwood is paid by pelican to start threads in the forum... Why xxxxxx ??? discuss... Might even be a bot...

Paul T 04-15-2020 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 10825591)
Probably for the same reason Sportomatic wasn't given any respect.

At least with Sporto's you still got to shift....just eliminated a pedal. I always wanted to drive one of those just to check it out.

manbridge 74 04-15-2020 10:51 AM

Salesmen found them hard to sell. Especially cabs equipped with ladytronic....

GH85Carrera 04-15-2020 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 10825647)
I suspect Sugarwood is paid by pelican to start threads in the forum... Why xxxxxx ??? discuss... Might even be a bot...

Not much pay, with just 6,000+ posts.

Even with all my posts I get less than a grand per month. :cool:

masraum 04-15-2020 11:39 AM

Slushbox = not sporty
manual transmission with servo operated clutch and magic shifting due to being in 2 gears at once = sporty.

wildthing 04-15-2020 11:49 AM

I've never driven a PDK, but I did test drive a 95 Tip. Just not as fun, and the gear changes were not as quick. I did drive a DSG for a while and that was quite fast and was pleased with it.

GH85Carrera 04-15-2020 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wildthing (Post 10825768)
I've never driven a PDK, but I did test drive a 95 Tip. Just not as fun, and the gear changes were not as quick. I did drive a DSG for a while and that was quite fast and was pleased with it.

PDK shifts are measured in milliseconds. Seamless, and all you really notice is the change in engine RPM. On a track it is just already in the right gear ready for you. And it even downshifts as you come to a corner. It is spooky how good it is.

My wife's Macan has PDK. I was lucky enough to go up to Hallet Motorsport track twice and "forced" to drive a Boxster S, Cayman S and a 911 S and a Panamara Turbo 4S and a Macan GTS. Yep, pretty tough duty.

onewhippedpuppy 04-15-2020 12:19 PM

Tiptronic was just a fancy version of moving the lever from 1-2-3. That’s it.

tcar 04-15-2020 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 10825591)
Probably for the same reason Sportomatic wasn't given any respect.

Even after it won class at Le Mans....

oldE 04-15-2020 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 10825483)
Viscous coupling. Viscous coupling. Viscous coupling.

Ahh, sheddep....

Ignorince and prejudice.
The two usually go hand in hand.

Best
Les

rattlsnak 04-15-2020 01:17 PM

This sums it up.. "Tiptronic is an automatic transmission. PDK is a manual transmission that shifts automatically..."

I have a PDK and will never go back to a traditional shifter gear box.

masraum 04-15-2020 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10825799)
PDK shifts are measured in milliseconds. Seamless.

My understanding is that the PDK puts the transmission in the current gear AND the next gear at the same time. That's why it's so fast.

rattlsnak 04-15-2020 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10825876)
My understanding is that the PDK puts the transmission in the current gear AND the next gear at the same time. That's why it's so fast.

Correct. it has a dual clutch setup. One in gear and the next gear is pre selected and ready to go..

rusnak 04-15-2020 08:38 PM

What are you guys even talking about?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1587011840.jpg

rattlsnak 04-15-2020 09:39 PM

The "pop" sound it makes when it shifts is euphoric.. The downshifts are insane in Sport mode.

Several great sounds in this video but listen @ 4:34 ish.. and then the downshifts at 5:03. That is exactly why PDKs rule!

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