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Rusty Heap 02-25-2022 06:07 AM

setting your prop depth on the down slider will be critical, seems pretty high up right now.

Ayles 03-13-2022 06:51 PM

Getting to a spot where I have enought tasks that are ready for gluing to mix up a batch of epoxy.

Today I got about 90% done shaping the nose and fitting the front section of the cowling.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1647226204.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1647226204.jpg

Jeff Higgins 03-13-2022 09:38 PM

Looking good! How much longer do you think it will be before you finish it and get it in the water?

Mine has been "done" enough to run it for a couple of weeks. The weather hasn't been all that inviting, however, keeping in mind I might have to get wet if things go too far awry...

Ayles 03-14-2022 10:58 AM

Thanks! I actually think its going to be a while. Still need to make some big purchases with batteries, charger, radio system, servos and speed controller as well as paint. But I am to the point now where I can skin the sponsons.

Trying to land on a charger that both my son and I can use for his smaller batteries and larger ones I need for the boat.

That's great to hear on your boat looking forward to hearing how it goes!

Rusty Heap 03-14-2022 11:02 AM

I've had very good luck with this charger, that handles anything from 2S to 6S and is custom programmable.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/390673759098?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=390673759098&targetid=12631048055 26&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=9033391&poi=&campaig nid=14859008593&mkgroupid=130497710760&rlsatarget= pla-1263104805526&abcId=9300678&merchantid=101715947&g clid=Cj0KCQjwz7uRBhDRARIsAFqjulmZKO09Jy39hNTUr1qXJ lCCP3yow0azHXNJpUDCZBbTuYFIbbTXHpgaAiYVEALw_wcB

herr_oberst 03-14-2022 11:10 AM

Skin those sponsons!

(Who the heck is that bobblehead? Nick Cave?)

Ayles 03-14-2022 11:15 AM

Thanks for the reco!

I still have a lot to learn about my battery needs here, there seems to be quite a bit to consider especially when it comes to the motor and speed control I choose as well. This is the one my local hydro parts dealer sells, quite a bit more $$ though.

https://www.allrc1.com/product-page/used-duo-charger-hitec-x2-plus

Jeff Higgins 03-14-2022 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayles (Post 11635709)
Thanks! I actually think its going to be a while. Still need to make some big purchases with batteries, charger, radio system, servos and speed controller as well as paint. But I am to the point now where I can skin the sponsons.

Trying to land on a charger that both my son and I can use for his smaller batteries and larger ones I need for the boat.

That's great to hear on your boat looking forward to hearing how it goes!

Yeah, I had a really hard time with all of this as well. I'm not all that up to speed on modern brushless/lipo power trains, I'm more of an old school glow engine kind of guy. With my new airplanes, the "foamies" I've been buying from Horizon and Tower Hobbies, I simply buy what they suggest in their completion lists.

So, with that in mind, I kind of "cheated" on my boat. I found a similar size RTR boat, the Proboat hydroplane, and just ordered its running gear, recommended batteries, and charger. As an aside, it might have been cheaper to buy that boat and strip it than to piecemeal like I did...

This way I know I have stuff that will all play nice together. I have no aspirations of ever racing it, so I didn't have to follow any club or class rules. The local guys, the Classic Thunder club, have some weird rules for that stuff anyway. Everything but their "open" class specs a motor that hasn't even been made in over a decade. I'm not sure why they continue to spec that one (probably because they all have boxes of them), but it kind of makes it less than inviting to try to join them.

Which, with this boat, would have been hopeless anyway. They all told me it could never be competitive. Just too old, too heavy, too slow (kinda like its builder...). I'm not sure I'm ready to commit to a race series anyway. Last time I did that, it was R/C cars with my younger son, some 20 years ago. It's a big commitment. Now that I'm retired, it's weird, but I feel less able to make those kinds of commitments than when I was working.

Ayles 03-14-2022 12:15 PM

Oh yeah! I have been reading a lot... the rules are pretty intense especially around the scale boats.

I just don't see myself racing either... I barely have enough time to drive my 911 so layering on something that uses up all the weekends over the summer is non-starter at this point. Hoping this boat looks good and runs well enough to drive it casually.

Ayles 03-14-2022 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11635732)
Skin those sponsons!

(Who the heck is that bobblehead? Nick Cave?)

The bobble head is one of the Misfits, Jerry Only. My workshop also serves a mini museum of trinkets and mementos.

Ayles 05-08-2022 03:17 PM

Worked out the sponson skins today and was shocked to see it look so much like a real hydro all of a sudden. Definitely a turning point in the build.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1652051798.jpg

herr_oberst 05-08-2022 06:20 PM

Wow, that's coming along! Looks fantastic!

Jeff Hail 05-08-2022 10:21 PM

Nice watching this coming along.

Tim Hancock 05-09-2022 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayles (Post 11635738)
Thanks for the reco!

I still have a lot to learn about my battery needs here, there seems to be quite a bit to consider especially when it comes to the motor and speed control I choose as well. This is the one my local hydro parts dealer sells, quite a bit more $$ though.

https://www.allrc1.com/product-page/used-duo-charger-hitec-x2-plus

I use one similar to what Rustyheap posted. Mine is over 10 years old and I have used it hundreds of times to charge both lipos and Nimh batteries in RC planes, helicopters and race cars. I think I paid about $12.99 for it from Hobbyking.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1652107102.jpg

Hobbyking sometimes has decent pricing on motors, ESC's, servos etc. Just have to research what you need/want.

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/power-systems/electric-motors/boat-motors.html

Ayles 05-09-2022 09:55 AM

Thanks All, its really motivational to see it in the stage.

And thanks for tip on the charger!

Here are the batteries people typically run and you need two of them.
https://www.allrc1.com/product-page/4s-graphene-fantom-racing-pack-1

Tim Hancock 05-10-2022 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayles (Post 11687374)
Thanks All, its really motivational to see it in the stage.

And thanks for tip on the charger!

Here are the batteries people typically run and you need two of them.
https://www.allrc1.com/product-page/4s-graphene-fantom-racing-pack-1

I could never bring myself to spend that much for those lipo batteries.

A quick Ebay search found these.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/384755004875?epid=14053426903&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&h ash=item59952f75cb:g:bk4AAOSwgZViGiYG&amdata=enc%3 AAQAGAAAA4EGsFmdIh%2F%2BaLR1MV%2F7ITkzmsb1aT2j%2B2 JCfr0CNxdqzqiT7rvj5GFKewjThhZssugyAfmIHklutg54vzs3 N%2FI0m8GaL2J9QniTMm%2BO8g6qib2pjUV6C0%2FH2ddQ%2Fv 9fc3K8qnYZLayYP1yQqgMfuGmJvtywl2NRt1VgFw30ScckQ0Dy YkzeqIwNxP%2BHZHqSjd%2BcK88luO9GcviJmW%2FCWXtVINQe v66zhxKDz7F%2FklFqpuly8KvIQVyzEL6lVgpiYFzUVWd637qC bHhfivjQ8l7OA6bLEnitJqBTNcvdal0DV%7Ctkp%3ABFBMqJy9 25Vg

Granted I am not too into the RC boat game, but I have a bunch of 2s and 3s lipos for various RC planes and RC race cars. I run mainly 5200 mah 2s 50C "cheap" Goldbat brand batteries in my race trucks that I buy on Ebay. Never had one fail yet after using for three years racing my buddies. Some of my buddies use much more expensive packs yet we all run the same speeds and my six $18 battery packs work as good as the guys running $50 battery packs.

Ayles 01-04-2023 03:11 PM

I am back at it. I gave up on getting the bracket I needed from the main supplier. I reached out to a guy on one of the FB groups and he made me one on his mill. It's rougher than the original I wanted, but I can't wait forever and can do some finishing work to make it look a little better. I've got SS rod and small heim joints for it coming as well.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1672877395.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1672877395.jpg

herr_oberst 01-04-2023 03:31 PM

That is cool. A rough blank, ready to finish. The perfect project for a couple of cruddy PNW evenings.

Ayles 01-08-2023 10:17 AM

Spent a little time with it and got in pretty nice shape. Not looking for perfection, didnt want to get too polished while I will be taking it on and off quite a bit as I build.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1673205426.jpg

Rusty Heap 01-08-2023 01:13 PM

Looking good, I like your custom rear wing strut bracket!

Ayles 05-31-2024 02:08 PM

After neglecting this project for a while I put in a bit of work this week. Framed in the nose, glassed the floor of the nose, built turbine tray and and remade one of the top sheets I was not happy with also started shaping the front canards and gluing up a block to shape the nose from.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717193146.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717193146.jpg

Ayles 05-31-2024 02:10 PM

I was able to connect with the builder of this boat to help get out of overthinking a few things.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1717193421.jpg

HobieMarty 05-31-2024 02:38 PM

Wow, what is the top speed of something like that???

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Ayles 05-31-2024 02:53 PM

I think they top out around 50 to 60 mph, maybe a little more.

HobieMarty 05-31-2024 09:56 PM

I have a brushless electric r/c boat, Atomik Whiplash 24, and it will do 30mph. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d90b97d2f7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...3704164fc2.jpg

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Ayles 05-31-2024 10:14 PM

That looks great! What scale is it?

Ayles 07-17-2024 03:42 PM

Still cranking away! I have been puzzling over the nose for some time. I just couldnt figure out how to get the fiberglass nose to mate up with the frame. I spoke to a couple builders and the answer was the same. You have to cut off the fiberglass nose and build one up out of wood. So I glued up a block and went at it with a dremel. It have the rough shape down and just need to epoxy it on to finish it up.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1721259688.jpg

herr_oberst 07-17-2024 04:40 PM

You're practically finished! Can't wait to see the boat on the water.

For some reason, my YouTube feed has been sending Unlimited Hydroplane videos. It's been fun to watch Miss Budweiser and Miss Oberto out on Lake Washington again.


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