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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10924112)

^^^ Paul
In other words we need leadership. Wish you were in that role now - I would feel better about the future.

Oh, they'd all fire me in about 20 minutes. I am shocked I made O-6, not surprised I didn't make the next level. My inline de-mubblizer has been on tilt for decades.

CDC's job is to propose common sense solutions to understand the current CV and prepare for the next, based on really simple systems engineering and modelling practices.

I think we'll get there. At least a part of me does.

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 10924086)

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It is standard for Medicare to pay roughly three times more for a patient with a respiratory condition who goes on a ventilator than for one who does not. That has nothing to do with the coronavirus.

As part of a federal stimulus bill, Medicare is paying hospitals 20 percent more than standard rates for COVID-19 patients.

Indications are that due to a lack of testing and other factors, the number of coronavirus cases has been undercounted, not padded.......

For the ;tldr crowd.

Good read. Thank you Shaun. SmileWavy

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10923882)

Guess what I was looking for is....more about this person who got infected. The precautionary steps they themselves took, if any, and what their activities were previous to getting infected.

Did they go out every day to stores and public areas?
Did they stay home except for the occasional food run?
Were they mask wearers?
What were their interactions with other humans?
What kind of symptoms did they experience?
Were their hospitalized?
If so, for how long - and what treatment(s) did they receive?
How old are they?
What is their demographic?
What about travel? Did they go anywhere recently?
Do they have any comments to us....the folks....they would like to pass on?

Get these people in front of a microphone or on video. I realize many will refuse any publicity and want their privacy. But not all will.

Do some digging and get us some details.

These media people are pretty damn lazy if you ask me. They wouldn't know human interest/public safety stories if they bit them in their arse. :rolleyes:

That is what contact tracing does. US has medical privacy laws so you aren't seeing the results.

Public health personnel have aggregate data.

The virus (like all pathogens) is under selection pressure to evolve to less virulence but we don't really know that it has, and it may never do so.

CFR going down is very likely due to demographic changes in infections.

The challenge with the death statistics is that they are over inflated. In at least some states, anyone who dies regardless of the cause of death who tests positive for Covid in the postmortem is classified as a Covid death. So if I die in a car accident today and then test positive, I’m added to the statistics. A more meaningful measure would be to track total deceased positives AND deaths where Covid was the primary cause of death. Because many of the local cases, particularly in nursing homes, were people basically in the verge of death already.

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 10924228)

The challenge with the death statistics is that they are over inflated. In at least some states, anyone who dies regardless of the cause of death who tests positive for Covid in the postmortem is classified as a Covid death. So if I die in a car accident today and then test positive, I’m added to the statistics. A more meaningful measure would be to track total deceased positives AND deaths where Covid was the primary cause of death. Because many of the local cases, particularly in nursing homes, were people basically in the verge of death already.

Can you post where you learned this?