Small, inexpensive A/C unit...legit?
 

Have you guys seen promos for this thing? Is it a tiny swamp cooler? :confused:

https://toptechtrend.com/trending/airco/new-high-tech-ac-saves-money-7/?country=US&region=Wisconsin&geo=United%20States&d evice=Tablet&bemobdata=c%3Dd8d67ee0-94a3-4137-8970-58149d9f4860..f%3D60270b06-aa90-4461-bc62-13873fd1c8b8..a%3D0..b%3D0..e%3DGiAGja-4EuM78Y9YY7aA8VzDC0LfvGysGGUlQZuGuW_a3iCmlk8..c1%3 Dcnbc..c2%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fnative-images.s3.amazonaws.com%252F295967d79848e0ebf4126c 5df11ab404.jpeg..c3%3DStoddard%253A%2520Why%2520Ar e%2520People%2520Snapping%2520Up%2520This%2520%252 489%2520AC%2520Unit%253F..c4%3D4927093..c5%3D580.. c6%3D2905229684..c7%3DTablet..c8%3Dblauxpacglobal. .r%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Ftrc.taboola.com%252Fcnbc% 252Flog%252F3%252Fclick%253Fpi%253D%25252F2020%252 52F06%25252F30%25252Fdr-anthony-fauci-says-new-virus-in-china-has-traits-of-2009-h1n1-and-1918-pandemic-flu.html%2526ri%253D64a9687382c74677b0bb37a91bfd61 b2%2526sd%253Dv2_70c8f1104d4ec79cf0af9d049d926280_ 4ab1b5da-b1d5-40cb-a8cc-5685d892ea25-tuct45ed336_1593570961_1593571357_CAwQxAQYudLtwbAu IAIoBDDhATiRpA5AufEPSNmu4gNQvgVYAGAAaIyjy_jk5t67xA E%2526ui%253D4ab1b5da-b1d5-40cb-a8cc-5685d892ea25-tuct45ed336%2526it%253Dtext%2526ii%253D~~V1~~-5230977402022155516~~nBLVpuDoJmMcyUmggUpLZv05x1YWg 6THfx0QZNHbM38ndpXq_nTToVci-tV_1bYyPVPbFHdycXfyr1VxmozLcV7JbGFbjtizQN29Zpin8p1 JlawpbYFtoRw_FVSAoDPyp8aL1LkVIGL2o7i9CSh9W0ETncFnP jWv_rsHYnYnMgcoqfsZIVAyBINO2rDSYXCLHhIqh8E4aafKEgm VGUrokycXmU84FrNDNwUNQpf5nCEr0Q4Yv7nxOJq1yO0Emkxg% 2526pt%253Dtext%2526li%253Drbox-t2v%2526sig%253Dd49f3c09bfbda851b3f7113105ddd3d05c 2fde5f8498%2526redir%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252 Fgo.loadingly.com%25252Fgo%25252Fd8d67ee0-94a3-4137-8970-58149d9f4860%25253Fclick_id%25253DGiAGja-4EuM78Y9YY7aA8VzDC0LfvGysGGUlQZuGuW_a3iCmlk8%25252 6site%25253Dcnbc%252526thumbnail%25253Dhttps%25252 53A%2525252F%2525252Fnative-images.s3.amazonaws.com%2525252F295967d79848e0ebf4 126c5df11ab404.jpeg%252526title%25253DStoddard%252 5253A%25252BWhy%25252BAre%25252BPeople%25252BSnapp ing%25252BUp%25252BThis%25252B%2525252489%25252BAC %25252BUnit%2525253F%252526campaign_id%25253D49270 93%252526site_id%25253D580%252526campaign_item_id% 25253D2905229684%252526platform%25253DTablet%25252 6px%25253Dblauxpacglobal%252526tblci%25253DGiAGja-4EuM78Y9YY7aA8VzDC0LfvGysGGUlQZuGuW_a3iCmlk8%25252 3tblciGiAGja-4EuM78Y9YY7aA8VzDC0LfvGysGGUlQZuGuW_a3iCmlk8%25252 6recirc%25253Dtaboolaexternal%2526vi%253D159357097 8105%2526p%253Dnulbi-airconditioner%2526r%253D21%2526tvi2%253D-2%2526lti%253Ddeflated%2526ppb%253DCE4%2526cpb%253 DEhMyMDIwMDYzMC00MS1SRUxFQVNFGN4IIJz__________wEqG WNoLnRhYm9vbGFzeW5kaWNhdGlvbi5jb20yCHdhdGVyODk2OID AhcMLQJGkDki58Q9Q2a7iA1i-BWMImQoQxw8YEWRjCP7__________wEQ_v__________ARgCZG MIwgsQ3BcYFmRjCP8OENcVGBhkYwjSAxDgBhgIZGMI-wwQjxMYDGRjCPQHEOYMGA5k#tblciGiAGja-4EuM78Y9YY7aA8VzDC0LfvGysGGUlQZuGuW_a3iCmlk8&recir c=taboolaexternal

Ok, that link looks insane but it works.

Reads like another Ron Popeil invention? Looks like a mini Swamp cooler. https://home.howstuffworks.com/home-improvement/heating-and-cooling/swamp-cooler.htm

I think you can do alot better (bang for the buck) elsewhere. https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=swamp+cooler&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

So does this link.

https://toptechtrend.com/trending/airco/new-high-tech-ac-saves-money-7/

All that other crap is about the tablet you are using and browser windows you have open..

on the device,

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1593572562.jpg


... an air conditioner for ANTS!?

Lol...

Haha. I see this thing in ads all over the place too. Very aggressive marketing.

Yes, looks like a mini swamp cooler, I bet it works in dry climates, just like a mister etc. Good Luck in the South or Midwest summers ... and even in the desert, how much cooling will you get out of a match box size device?

G

I like you Denis so i'll make you a deal on FOUR personal AC units for ONLY $100 - that's just $25 per unit!


https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1244_.jpg

But wait, there's more...

Just look at these RICH features...

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1440_.jpg

Order TODAY!

Just think, you can cool your self and friends!

Order TODAY!

^^^

And those coolers can be used as a TP alternative the next time hordes of fuukwits raid the stores!!!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1593580674.jpg


Seriously, if it can cool a medium sized room by 18 degrees, it might be more than snake oil... but it may only make you feel cooler if you're somewhere with low humidity.

And it's going to be a pain refilling the reservoir and keeping that battery charged.

Denis, you still in Wisconsin? Thinking about trying this out to keep your sleeping area cooler?

EDIT: from dad911's link:

I cannot vouch for the swamp cooler in speeder's first post but I have played around with evaporative coolers with some nice results. Granted, these devices are best when used in hot, dry climates; however, these can still provide some incredible temperature reduction here in the super-humid, muggy south (Alabama).

As an example: my neighbor has two chicken houses (the 420 feet long version of a chicken house). I was visiting him on a hot and extremely humid day and inquired about what I thought were cooling pads on one end of the chicken houses. He confirmed that yes these were cooling pads so he then lead me inside one of the houses and we observed the temperature. Next, he turned the water on to the pads (the exhaust fans had already been running) and I witnessed a significant temperature drop in the air - I was not expecting to see such a dramatic change because of the ambient humidity here... this is Alabama!

Psychometrics is an interesting science.

Prolly work OK out on the dry midwestern states, definitely not on the southern east coast

Thank Dr. Carrier for the wonderful chart he invented in the early 1900's to study the properties of air.

Brilliant man.

Interesting thread - especially for this time of year.

In my location the humidity would probably impact the effectiveness of such a device.

But I have been considering how to better control my garage's climate and this thread energized that thought process again.

I've always thought a window unit with both cool and heat would be the ticket.

Downside would be electric bill increase and also closing the garage up - which is not always practical during the day because it's in use by me - and my cat, whose food and water dishes are inside.

So what about just something to move the air?

A fan.

One that is controlled by a thermostat would be ideal.

I was looking at this and thinking it would be the best approach so I could use whatever fan I wanted (I already have extras of those on hand) - so just get this plug --- and Bob is your uncle.

https://images.globalindustrial.com/...=1579496400000

My grandparents were all born on farms and ranches, with no electricity. So not even a fan. During the dust bowl era it was record hot, and the dust storms were not just a few days or weeks, but they went on for three years. Then imagine it is time to eat dinner. It is 110 outside, the house is like your attic hot, and mom lights the wood burning stove in the kitchen to cook. I can't imagine how hot it must have been. The 1930s still hold many all time hot records for Oklahoma.

As a kid growing up we did not have AC in the house until I was in high school. I went to 11 different schools, and not one was air conditioned. From Hawaii to Alabama, Texas, and Oklahoma.

I remember when I was in grade school going to my grandparents house and they had a large swamp cooler. It worked great on low humidity days, but it smelled like a wet basement, and on humid days, it just made the house feel worse.

I think Air Conditioning is one of the top 5 best inventions of all time. Thank you Mr. Carrier.

I’ve toyed with the idea of a small heat pump unit for my garage. They aren’t super expensive, the outside unit is small enough to wall or roof mount, and they work reasonably well. Unfortunately I don’t have 220VAC in my garage, which would be pricey since the electrical box is on the opposite corner of the house.

Denis have you looked at the freestanding A/C units that plug into a 120VAC wall outlet? You have to manually empty the drip tray but they work well to cool a room. At a past job we had a few to cool conference rooms with poor ventilation.

For a couple hundred they make room ACs that vent through a 4" dryer vent.

I may do a minisplit, so it hangs on the wall out of the way (I could use the heat here also)

It's basically a tiny swamp cooler, and nothing new under the sun. Thermodynamics ain't free - you have to dump that hot air somewhere.

I bought a similar one at a swap meet for $20

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/iuCGrZBeitY" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Wait, isn't global warming a new thing? How is that possible?

From anyone that's used a swamp cooler..... I assume they add alot of moisture to the air? I thought they were typically used outside?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NiPLJEFRBnM" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

While vacationing as a youngster with my parents in East Texas in July, I still remember my grandmother adding ice cubes in the afternoons to her two swamp cooler water trays. Her house was built in the early 1920's or so and had no central AC or window AC units.

Thanks, Tob....pretty cool....no pun intended! :D

Yeah, or they make little plates that let you vent through an opened window.

We did something similar for our dog when we lived in the low desert. I had a HVAC booster section with the fan build in and had an extra transmission cooler to pump the water through. That unit was attached to the top of her house and we ran it during the hot part of the day. We also had a kiddie pool filled with sand and a soaker hose buried in it so she could dig and lay in that as well.

Which dry Midwest states are those? You can wring the weather out of your t-shirt here in WI. :eek:

Yep, I’ve owned one of those free-standing, vent through a dryer hose deals for years in L.A. It works really well where a traditional window unit doesn’t fit, you just have to empty the water when it gets full and the unit shuts off.

Even Los Angeles gets humid enough to where the de-humidifier function is half the battle won. In the rest of the non-desert parts of the country, it’s more than half.

Smart kid! I wonder how many BTUs that are-up is, though...IOW, do you need to sit right in front of it. :cool:

The genius service director bought 4 giant versions of these to cool the bays down in 2007. I looked at one realized it was a swamp / fan. I went to him and said " You know those things put MORE moisture into the air right? Why do you think it's so bad here when it's in the 80's / 90's? Because we're in Virginia and it's always humid!"

Dumd @ss.....

The AC in our apt went out a while back. It only took the guys in the apt a few hours to find the leak, get the parts and fix the issue, but in the mean time they brought one of those in. There was a panel with a large hose (like a dryer vent hose, but at least twice the size) that went in a window and then the unit sat on the floor. It seemed to work really well in our case.

those look like AC vents from an 80s GM vehicle.

I don't understand how any intelligent person can fall for that nonsense.

You cannot get heat out of a room with a shoebox sized device
AND NOTHING TO MOVE THE HEAT OUT OF THE ROOM.

Monoblock airco's with dryer hose work for small rooms
But as they blow hot air out
they cause low pressure in the house.. which means you will suck exterior air in the house through various gaps in the insulation/shell of the room&house.

They don't work well for big rooms/houses on really hot days

My gf's friend bought two of those. One for him, and one for her. I looked at it and there is a pullout tray that you soak in water then leave in the freezer. It looks like it is made of air filter material. Then there is a well that you have to put water in. I told her it is like sticking a block of ice in front of a fan. I don't think she has used it.

You should see the giant version of those that they use for film production or other remote cooling of large spaces. I worked on a film once where they had to cool a HS gymnasium in an old military school w/o A/C on a 98 deg day in southern MN. Humidity was probably around 95%.

The unit is the size of a railroad car on the trailer of a semi and it had a hose about 3' in diameter that blew the cold air into the school. The hose was pretty long. The hot air and condensation from the A/C unit just emptied out the other side of the condenser on the truck. Pretty impressive...it really cooled and dehumidified the huge auditorium full people.

Swamp coolers are how we cooled our greenhouses when I was a grower in the indoor foliage industry.

One end of the greenhouse consisted of a porous fiber with water cascading down it and the other end a series of large fans that sucked air flow through the wet air end.

They did a fantastic job to keep things cool.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1593694872.jpg

That was back in the 70's. They now have advanced materials like cellulose products that are more efficient.....

https://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j...d-for-Sale.jpg

Friend of mine in HS had a dad that was into orchids. Had the largest non-commercial greenhouse in the state. He used misters and fans to keep it cool in there, like 20-30 degrees cooler than ambient temps

Well you can cool things with water & sun
But that won't work indoors.

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/environment/old-wind-towers-the-new-cooling-system-1.503775

Traditional cooling. Drape wet muslin at the top of the tower and let it cool the air therefore dropping it down into the dwelling.

I'm going to say no, it probably doesn't woork. Looks similar to the ZeroBreeze that was debunked by Thunderf00t a little while ago.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/zol--A-CT8M" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>