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LWJ 07-09-2020 09:33 PM

Nice responses gents.

Tevake, my son, now 18 and a grad, had some nasty depression in 8th grade. A therapist was very useful. As for Pacific University, a good friend is C level mgmt there. Can I assist in any way? Make a connection? We are very insistent on our son attending college (go ducks!) mostly for his mental health. We will gamble his physical health as he is vulnerable to depression.

Be well pelicans.

tevake 07-10-2020 04:05 AM

Nice of you to offer help at Pacific University LWJ.

Adrian and his Mom did the rounds of a number of schools in that part of the country and found P U to be the best fit. Adrian has been accepted and offered some nice financial aid scholarship..

The school is very active in supporting incoming students, especially those from Hawaii.
There have been a couple of visits to the islands by a some of admissions team to give presentations and answer questions and offer guidance in preparing for entry to the school.

They are also doing weekly online presentations by staff and faculty to inform students and family about the offerings at the school and current thinking about accomadations to the current situations etc. All very welcoming and supportive.

There is a lot involved in his decision to hold off in starting for now. Part of that is being able to have access to new therapists in a group setting there in the LA area. In the hopes of helping to get himself turned around and feeling more positive about himself and about life in general.

Hopefully by the next semester this epidemic situation will be better resolved, and Adrian will be in a better frame of mind to start his college endeavors.

Thanks again LWJ for your kind offer to help! And all the best to your son in starting his college career.

Cheers Richard

LWJ 07-10-2020 05:51 AM

Richard,

Best wishes to you and Adrian!

Also, come look me up when he attends. I live near. I will tell you the local's secrets.

LWJ 07-26-2020 08:36 PM

Update. Not good.

I come home this afternoon after not catching trout on a gorgeous mountain stream with my son. Hug my wife. Tell her I love her. She breaks down. Who died, I asked.

Another suicide. This time a neighbor and friend. He was a doctor. Don't know details. He appeared to me to have the world by the tail. A gentle, soft spoken soul. Someone I looked up to.

Again. Be easy on folks. There is bad stuff going around.

RSBob 07-26-2020 08:49 PM

If you think it is bad with people losing their jobs, going to food banks for survival, or watching family members die, just wait until they can’t pay rent or lose their homes and end up living in their cars. Suicide rates will unfortunately take off.

wdfifteen 07-26-2020 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 10940074)
We too have dealt with teen depression. It's terrifying. A tough world out there for kids who internalize everything. This is a large part of why i strongly believe we need to get kids back to school at all costs.

High school was the most depressing part of my life. I hated it.
I worry about my grandson. He has struggled since the death of his brother 5 years ago. I never had anything that dramatic in my life, but I hated being in school. I was a "star" on our little podunk school football team, but I hated school and all it represented.
My grandson is saying if he has to go back to school he'll kill himself. He is much happier spending time with his friends than having to deal with the hundred or so kids at school, some of whom pick on him and belittle him. As a 6'4" and 150lb high school freshman he is an outlier and gets too much negative attention. He doesn't want to go back to school, and probably won't.

cstreit 07-26-2020 09:05 PM

Anyone wonder what the death toll is for depression, unemployment, and lack of health insurance is as a result of the lockdown?

onewhippedpuppy 07-27-2020 03:41 AM

This is why I have reacted so violently to people advocating for extended lockdowns. No it’s not a quarantine, quarantines are for sick people. Forcing healthy people to stay locked in their homes is a lockdown.

Statistically speaking CV kills old people with health conditions, not trying to be callous but that’s a fact. The “cure” for CV (that’s not working) destroys and lives of young and healthy people. These are the CV deaths that will never be counted, the victims that will never receive treatment. Kids, teenagers, business owners, employees, they’ve had their lives ripped apart by politics and government overreach. Kids who don’t get to go to school and see their friends, which is your entire basis of normalcy as a kid. Athletes who have invested years in sports no longer allowed to play. High school and college seniors who never got to experience their graduation. High school students who never got a senior prom. Business owners who spent decades building their business, only to watch powerless as the government made it illegal for them to open their doors. Employees that can’t pay their bills or support their families because their employer was forced to shut down. Drug and alcohol abuse is up, domestic violence is up, all violent crime is pacing to break records across the nation. It makes me absolutely sick to my stomach, absolutely sick. I suspect that the victim count from the CV “cure” will dramatically outpace the actual CV deaths, but we’ll never hear about that.

berettafan 07-27-2020 04:48 AM

Common sense truth right there.

madcorgi 07-27-2020 02:58 PM

I disagree, but don't want to argue the point and spoil this thread.

There have been two suicides at my wife's high school since the lockdown. It seems every year we lose a few that way. Teenage kids have it very tough today.

Tobra 07-27-2020 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 10962857)
Common sense truth right there.

Absolutely.

It is heartbreaking the number of folks in the hospital that can't have visitors, and are destined to die alone, among strangers.

berettafan 07-27-2020 03:56 PM

WD i'm sorry for what you are dealing with. My grandparents never had a clue if anything was wrong with me so perhaps its a good sign that you are in the know. School can be miserable, i know it, but i do believe it's for the best that kids find their way through it so they can navigate relationships later in life when it really matters.

Good luck to us all on this subject. I've no doubt we all just want the best for our kids.

Porsche-O-Phile 07-27-2020 04:08 PM

Awful. Sad to hear but glad she’s offering what support she can.


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