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Shifter 07-13-2020 09:28 PM

I have one of those jeep things. Makes for some exciting times off road. It is much more capable than I am off road.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1594704356.jpg


However I do like the looks of the new bronco. I can see doing some test drives in my future.

Noah930 07-14-2020 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hockey fan (Post 10945372)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1594703928.jpg

I wish they would have gone with a Signal Orange, but I think it looks amazing.

Agree that it looks fantastic. The 2-door seems like it has better proportions that the 4-door. We have 5 in the Noah household, so maybe we'll hold out until one of the kids goes off to college in a few years...

vash 07-14-2020 10:13 AM

i think the new Bronco is awesome. awesome looking at least. i bet the aftermarket groups are salivating at the potential.

porsche4life 07-14-2020 10:14 AM

I agree about the looks of the new bronco. Badass looking SUV


I’ve seen some hate on the engines, but both options are super torquey, so i suspect they will do just fine hauling that thing up a hillside

porsche4life 07-14-2020 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 10945909)
i think the new Bronco is awesome. awesome looking at least. i bet the aftermarket groups are salivating at the potential.

Yup. And using the 2.3 and 2.7 means there are tons of engine mods out there already. That 2.3 with an intake, tune, and downpipe is a nasty little 4 banger.

Hockey fan 07-14-2020 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 10945909)
i think the new Bronco is awesome. awesome looking at least. i bet the aftermarket groups are salivating at the potential.

I read that there are already 200 approved accessories so it'll be great to see everything they come up with. Reminds me of the heyday of getting the James Duff Bronco catalog way back when.

vash 07-14-2020 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hockey fan (Post 10945916)
James Duff Bronco catalog way back when.

hahha..i remember them.

aigel 07-14-2020 10:22 AM

I like what I see and read. Yes, there is a stupid screen ...

But there appears to be the option to buy the bare bones version and then add the baddest off road package availalbe. It also comes with a manual transmission ...

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2021-ford-bronco-price-2-door-4-door/

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Hockey fan 07-14-2020 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 10945919)
hahha..i remember them.

When I had my first Bronco at 16 that catalog was like the Sears Wishbook and Victoria's Secret catalog all in one! :D

LJ851 07-14-2020 10:40 AM

I watched the bronco release video and it looks like a great truck, for a new car the styling is pretty appealing.

In the video Ford states that Bronco was the first American SUV. The International Scout debuted 5 years (1961) before the Bronco (1966) and it is the first Amercian SUV.

How do they get away saying that when it is not true? Serious question.

Noah930 07-14-2020 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LJ851 (Post 10945956)
I watched the bronco release video and it looks like a great truck, for a new car the styling is pretty appealing.

In the video Ford states that Bronco was the first American SUV. The International Scout debuted 5 years (1961) before the Bronco (1966) and it is the first Amercian SUV.

How do they get away saying that when it is not true? Serious question.

Because no one's left from International to call them out on that?

From a distance (i.e. going the opposite way on the road), those early Broncos look just like Scouts.

stuttgart46 07-14-2020 10:46 AM

Is it true you can get it in OJ White?

Asking for a friend

tabs 07-14-2020 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 10945910)
I agree about the looks of the new bronco. Badass looking SUV


I’ve seen some hate on the engines, but both options are super torquey, so i suspect they will do just fine hauling that thing up a hillside

I likey Ford Blue...

The original Ford Bronco didn't have a mega engine in it either..

The Specs
Engines
2.8L (170 cu in) OHV I-6, 82-89 hp (net) to 100-105 hp (gross), 131-146 lb-ft (n) to 156-158 lb-ft (g)
3.3L (200 cu in) OHV I-6, 84-89 hp (n), 131-156 lb-ft (n)
4.7L (289 cu in) OHV V-8, 150 hp (n) to 200 hp (g), 242 lb-ft (n) to 282 lb-ft (g)
4.9L (302 cu in) OHV V-8, 125-158 hp (n) to 205 hp (g), 218-242 lb-ft (n) to 300 lb-ft (g)
Transmissions
3-speed manual
3-speed automatic
Drive Rear- and 4-wheel
Front Suspension Live axle, coil springs
Rear Suspension Live axle, leaf springs
Brakes F/R Drums/drums or discs/drums
Weight 2,750-3,500 lb
The Info
Years Produced
1966-1977
Number Produced
225,585 including 5,000 roadsters, 18,569 pickups, and 202,016 wagons
Original Price
$2,404/$2,480/$2,625 (roadster/pickup/wagon, 1966) $5,078 (1976)

RWebb 07-14-2020 10:54 AM

It's good to have the Bronco back - and you don't even have to get out and twist the damn locker hubs now...

Glad it has a short wheelbase, so it can do serious bad road work.

Most will surely sell to poseurs, but that is a good thing as it lowers the used price for people that need one after the fad wears off for the new buyers.

LJ851 07-14-2020 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 10945959)
Because no one's left from International to call them out on that?

From a distance (i.e. going the opposite way on the road), those early Broncos look just like Scouts.


I thought there were laws against false advertising?

It seems almost everyone wants to rewrite history these days.

Dantilla 07-14-2020 11:14 AM

Lockers front and rear, and mirrors that stay on with the doors removed.
They really are going after the Wrangler.
Only the Wranglers with the Rubicon package have lockers.
Right now, my jeep has no side mirrors because the doors are off.
I still gotta get the aftermarket brackets so I can take them off the doors and mount them to the door hinges.

I like the simplicity of the Jeep. No electrical in the doors, no TV screen on the dash.

onewhippedpuppy 07-14-2020 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by aigel (Post 10945927)
I like what I see and read. Yes, there is a stupid screen ...

But there appears to be the option to buy the bare bones version and then add the baddest off road package availalbe. It also comes with a manual transmission ...

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2021-ford-bronco-price-2-door-4-door/

G

I noticed the exact same thing, you can get the base model with the off road suspension, 35” tires, and full lockers. Also a vinyl floor and hose off marine vinyl seating. I’ll take one with a stick please.

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Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 10946022)
Lockers front and rear, and mirrors that stay on with the doors removed.
They really are going after the Wrangler.
Only the Wranglers with the Rubicon package have lockers.
Right now, my jeep has no side mirrors because the doors are off.
I still gotta get the aftermarket brackets so I can take them off the doors and mount them to the door hinges.

I like the simplicity of the Jeep. No electrical in the doors, no TV screen on the dash.

If you have power windows like most Wranglers you have electrical in the doors, and the new Jeeps all have at least a small screen.

Porsche-O-Phile 07-14-2020 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 10946022)
Lockers front and rear, and mirrors that stay on with the doors removed.
They really are going after the Wrangler.
Only the Wranglers with the Rubicon package have lockers.
Right now, my jeep has no side mirrors because the doors are off.
I still gotta get the aftermarket brackets so I can take them off the doors and mount them to the door hinges.

I like the simplicity of the Jeep. No electrical in the doors, no TV screen on the dash.

I do like that...

Can’t see whether the Bronco Sport will have the removable doors and roof (I think the answer is “no” but I can’t see it stated anywhere in all the stuff on the Ford Bronco page). I’d only consider the Sport - the “regular” Bronco is just too darn big. So I’m back to 2 Door Wranglers (which is where I was in the first place).

I like the fact that they don’t have video screens plopped into the dash as well. A lot. Very few cars integrate them well and don’t look like an afterthought and they’d be particularly out of place (and a theft magnet / vandalism magnet) in an open top / open side vehicle IMO. Simpler = better.

RWebb 07-14-2020 12:04 PM

video screens for GPS is a good idea for this type of vehicle

onewhippedpuppy 07-14-2020 12:05 PM

I think the Bronco Sport is a unibody wanna-be SUV.


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