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John Rogers 07-24-2020 01:40 PM

Had to get a new computer monitor
 
My 36 inch Vizio flat screen started to get several white looking spots a week or so ago and even if restarting and such they stayed around. Sooooo I went and looked at Frys, Best But and finally Walmart looking for a 40 inch flat screen but due to the "stay at home" business there were none. Next in line was a 50 inch Vizio at Walmart for less than $300 so I said what the heck that will work well. I have a NVidia GeForce RTX 2080 that I was lucky enough to get for $700, less that the regular $1199 list price. So after luging it home and finding it just barely fits on my computer desk between two book cases, the larger size lets me lean way back in my Healthy Back Co chair and keep the keyboard and mouse in my lap! Seems like the HDMI works very well and now it is easy to watch saved movies from my racing days (bicycle, running, triathlons and vintage sports cars) and have room to make movies and such! It also makes it nice for the face time with my cancer doctors and such and they are larger than real life!

Evans, Marv 07-24-2020 01:44 PM

I need a new monitor. I recently had to have a video appt. with my doc and had to use my wife's computer. My old monitor didn't have a camera. I didn't realize it was that old.

John Rogers 07-24-2020 03:12 PM

I bought a new model logitech camera last winter as my older one didn't want to work with Windows 10. I leave it unplugged unless needed.

stomachmonkey 07-24-2020 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by John Rogers (Post 10960072)
...I have a NVidia GeForce RTX 2080 that I was lucky enough to get for $700, less that the regular $1199 list price...

The 2080 Supers are the 8GB cards and go for ~$700ish normally.

The $1,200.00 2080 is the 11GB TI.

2080 Super is a great card.

Great performance at a reasonable cost.

john70t 07-24-2020 04:33 PM

I'd prefer a separate camera if that was ever an issue.
-When the time comes to upgrade. just get a new one and plug it in.
-If you don't want a camera at all, just unplug it.

Monitor speakers are sub-par generally. Probably true for cameras as well.

But hey, if it works it works..

masraum 07-24-2020 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by John Rogers (Post 10960072)
I have a NVidia GeForce RTX 2080 that I was lucky enough to get for $700, less that the regular $1199 list price.

Wow, WTF do you do with a $1200 video card?

unclebilly 07-25-2020 01:47 AM

I got a 40” NEC 404 touchscreen for $300. It’s still sitting in the box in my office. Do I actually need that much screen?

masraum 07-25-2020 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by unclebilly (Post 10960558)
I got a 40” NEC 404 touchscreen for $300. It’s still sitting in the box in my office. Do I actually need that much screen?

40" is big (and based on my wish list below, probably about perfect if it's extra wide), but what you probably don't need is touchscreen. My old (9 years) PC was a 23" touch screen. I rarely used the touchscreen functionality, and actually turned it off after the first 3-4 years. If I ever did use the touchscreen, then I just ended up having to clean the darn monitor later to get ride of the fingerprints.
If I was going to pick my perfect monitor, it would be something more like this.
It would be 12-14" tall (the viewable screen) and about 36" wide, so a diagonal measurement of 39-40" would fit the bill nicely. Then it would be a 4k or 5k monitor scaled up to that size.
https://icdn3.digitaltrends.com/imag...1.91.jpg?ver=1

masraum 07-25-2020 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by unclebilly (Post 10960558)
I got a 40” NEC 404 touchscreen for $300. It’s still sitting in the box in my office. Do I actually need that much screen?

Wow, that's a heck of a monitor for a heck of a deal.

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Touch interactive through IR Imaging technology integrated into the display
Maximum Protection and enhanced touch experience with anti-glare protective glass
Stylish and sleak design allows for easy and unobtrusive integration into any environment
500 cd/m² brightness combined with full HD resolution and new anti-reflective screen surface will capture the attention of the audience while allowing for clear visibility in normal ambient light conditions
Future proof modular expansion options including the ability to integrate Open Pluggable Specification (OPS) or a Raspberry Pi Compute Modules seamlessly into the display
SpectraView Engine allows for complete color, intensity, gamma or uniformity control for the ultimate imaging performance
Integrated Media Player allows for audio, video or image playback via USB or SD card that is also upgradeable via LAN
Industrial-strength, premium-grade panel with additional thermal protection, internal temperature sensors with self-diagnostics and fan-based technology, allows for hassle-free 24/7 operation

stomachmonkey 07-25-2020 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10960636)
40" is big (and based on my wish list below, probably about perfect if it's extra wide), but what you probably don't need is touchscreen. My old (9 years) PC was a 23" touch screen. I rarely used the touchscreen functionality, and actually turned it off after the first 3-4 years. If I ever did use the touchscreen, then I just ended up having to clean the darn monitor later to get ride of the fingerprints.
If I was going to pick my perfect monitor, it would be something more like this.
It would be 12-14" tall (the viewable screen) and about 36" wide, so a diagonal measurement of 39-40" would fit the bill nicely. Then it would be a 4k or 5k monitor scaled up to that size.
https://icdn3.digitaltrends.com/imag...1.91.jpg?ver=1

I've got a few of those widescreens in 27, 35 and 39.

I have found 27 and under you still want flat. Once you step up to the 32+ the curved are better and get progressively better get as they get larger. My 35 is flat and kind of annoying.

This may sound counter intuitive but as screen size goes up the curved displays actually correct for peripheral distortion and the flats make it worse.

For 3d work I do keep a 4:3 on the desk.

john70t 07-25-2020 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 10960707)
I have found 27 and under you still want flat. Once you step up to the 32+ the curved are better and get progressively better get as they get larger.

Yes to this. I bought an ASUS 27" 165hz. It sits further away on the desk and did notice the visual curvature skew at first. After an hour this mostly goes away.
Despite that, the new feeling of 'immersion' is kinda cool as the world seems to wrap around.

spuggy 07-25-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10960446)
Wow, WTF do you do with a $1200 video card?

High frame-rate gaming at 1080p and up, 3D CAD, GIS systems, medical imaging, crypto-mining. Anything with significant 3D/texture/rendering requirements that can actually off-load to the GPU.

But IME, most people that spend more than $200 on a video card have no idea what they get for that money - or why they don't need it. They just tick the most expensive box "because it's the best".

So they end up with some ridiculous thing that needs 500+ dedicated watts to drive a GPU that has as many (or more) transistors than their main CPU - and proceed to run a web browser or spreadsheet on it. Maybe a bit of YouTube or Netflix.

Which is all 2D and uses precisely none of the advantages they paid for.

I've noticed that they won't listen, and tend to get all butt-hurt when you point this out, too..

masraum 07-25-2020 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 10960707)
I've got a few of those widescreens in 27, 35 and 39.

I have found 27 and under you still want flat. Once you step up to the 32+ the curved are better and get progressively better get as they get larger. My 35 is flat and kind of annoying.

This may sound counter intuitive but as screen size goes up the curved displays actually correct for peripheral distortion and the flats make it worse.

For 3d work I do keep a 4:3 on the desk.

Yep, totally makes sense to me. Under a certain size and there's no point in making it curved. Over that size and curved makes sense for exactly the reasons that you state.

masraum 07-25-2020 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by spuggy (Post 10960899)
High frame-rate gaming at 1080p and up, 3D CAD, GIS systems, medical imaging, crypto-mining. Anything with significant 3D/texture/rendering requirements that can actually off-load to the GPU.

But IME, most people that spend more than $200 on a video card have no idea what they get for that money - or why they don't need it. They just tick the most expensive box "because it's the best".

So they end up with some ridiculous thing that needs 500+ dedicated watts to drive a GPU that has as many (or more) transistors than their main CPU - and proceed to run a web browser or spreadsheet on it. Maybe a bit of YouTube or Netflix.

Which is all 2D and uses precisely none of the advantages they paid for.

I've noticed that they won't listen, and tend to get all butt-hurt when you point this out, too..

Right, I get that there are applications for a card like that. I was wondering what his application was. But thanks.

sugarwood 07-25-2020 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by spuggy (Post 10960899)
But IME, most people that spend more than $200 on a video card have no idea what they get for that money - or why they don't need it. They just tick the most expensive box "because it's the best".

..

Really? I've never heard of even one person who does that. In my world, anyone who is buying a dedicated GPU knows EXACTLY what and why he's buying it. The vast majority of people don't even have a GPU, and use the onboard GPU on the MB.

stomachmonkey 07-25-2020 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10960446)
Wow, WTF do you do with a $1200 video card?

Photogrammetry rigs.

2 of my 3 development sandboxes.

Dual 2080’s

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1595725696.jpg

John Rogers 07-25-2020 05:46 PM

Well mine is not quite that nice but with my setup I can have a large web browser open, be assembling a video out of YouTube music and watching DVR races on my TV inlet and still have some room left over for email should one pop up or a text message from the kids (getting older now)! My first computer was a TI-99-4A and it connected to our main home TV set and saved/ran programs from a cassette player! I guess better is always better..........

RWebb 07-25-2020 06:28 PM

Photogrammetry for the govt. or a private co. ??

look 171 07-25-2020 06:38 PM

I thought I was bad ass with my new 32" screen. You take that to another level with 50":D

stomachmonkey 07-25-2020 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 10961427)
Photogrammetry for the govt. or a private co. ??

Private.

Most of my R&D work is focused on lowering the barrier of entry for 3D asset creation for use in AR/VR/XR applications using consumer / prosumer gear generating datasets that process through automated pipes.


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