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Bob Kontak 07-30-2020 11:21 AM

Unconventional bolt - please help identify
 
These oddly shaped flat flange headed bolts hold the big mirrors onto the side of this 65 International I am sprucing up. Any idea what they are called so I can source a handful? I am missing a couple and need eight. Acorn nuts should be easy to find.

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1990C4S 07-30-2020 11:28 AM

Those look like resistance weld studs to me, they should maybe have be projection welded into the door about 100 years ago....

csapp05 07-30-2020 11:31 AM

T-bolts

Aerkuld 07-30-2020 11:37 AM

Yup, what he said ^
Tee Bolt 1/4"-20, 20 PK (more choice) - POWERTEC

Shaun @ Tru6 07-30-2020 11:40 AM

This style of bolt slides into longhood aluminum bumper trim and then through the front and rear bumpers.

NY65912 07-30-2020 11:45 AM

You could probably use an elevator bolt if you can't find the exact replacement.

Bob Kontak 07-30-2020 11:51 AM

Yep. All good, my friends. Thank you. This should be easy.

Thanks for the link, Aerkuld.

Sooner or later 07-30-2020 12:01 PM

If you have a local Fastenal they probably have them

Bob Kontak 07-30-2020 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NY65912 (Post 10967481)
You could probably use an elevator bolt if you can't find the exact replacement.

Those look like an option as even the "perfect" t-bolt will have to be subjected to the bench grinder to fit the top of the door mounting location. Thanks.

Bob Kontak 07-30-2020 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 10967465)
Those look like resistance weld studs to me, they should maybe have be projection welded into the door about 100 years ago....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 10967496)
If you have a local Fastenal they probably have them

What a coincidence. My landlord worked at Fastenal for years and he just came to the shop. "Steve' come here and look at this. Would Fastenal have these in stock" He says, not in stock. "That's a weld stud and you can get them at any welding supply house."

Nice!

LWJ 07-30-2020 12:20 PM

More pictures of the International. I have a 63 in my side yard now. Grandpa bought it new. 30K original miles. Looked good until the barn fell on it.

Tobra 07-30-2020 12:38 PM

Sort of like the stud version of a captured nut

GH85Carrera 07-30-2020 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 10967546)
Sort of like the stud version of a captured nut

When a stud like Bob works on it, it is the stud version bolt. :eek:

Bob Kontak 07-30-2020 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LWJ (Post 10967522)
More pictures of the International. I have a 63 in my side yard now. Grandpa bought it new. 30K original miles. Looked good until the barn fell on it.

How cool is that? You really want to get me started, lol? This one has about 15k on it. Was a fire station truck It's the 4wd, D1300. Can't hit 50 mph on the freeway.

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After five months in shop (among other projects).

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1596143441.jpg

22 holes in roof plugged with weld (professional welder, and I held the brass rod inside the cab) and many peeps (across time) on hands and knees installing and repairing sirens/lights.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1596144403.jpg

Filler primer after epoxy.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1596144517.jpg

Washing etching acid out of interior.

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Before any wet sanding

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Some sanding and polish

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Bob Kontak 07-30-2020 01:39 PM

Front thingie back from powder coater.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1596145114.jpg

Inventory tag in door jamb. Spots are polishing compound.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1596145136.jpg

Tobra 07-30-2020 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10967578)
When a stud like Bob works on it, it is the stud version bolt. :eek:

Is this a Chuck Norris thing?

Bob Kontak 07-30-2020 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 10967603)
Is this a Chuck Norris thing?

He meant "When a spud like Bob works on it"

LWJ 07-30-2020 04:20 PM

Sweet!

Thanks!

LJ851 07-30-2020 08:34 PM

Bob, that's a great truck, is that yours or for a customer ?

We should have an IH thread around here, i might have to start one...

Bob Kontak 07-31-2020 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LJ851 (Post 10968036)
Bob, that's a great truck, is that yours or for a customer ?

We should have an IH thread around here, i might have to start one...

A customers but more a friend than an arms-length customer.

Quick story. I broke the passenger door window when gutting the door. I freaked out. Found an IH salvage place in Washington state. "Is there any way to get another window?" Guy says "Relax, I have 50 of them in the yard". They are all the same regardless of model across many years. Phew. $80 - Sold!

Tidybuoy 07-31-2020 10:22 AM

looks identical to the bolts that came with a toilet wax ring I just installed. You could probably find these bolts at a hardware plumbing section

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FPB111 07-31-2020 01:23 PM

Trailex also uses them to hold most of their aluminum trailers together. Drill a hole in your anvil and hammer a hex bolt head flat then file/grind to fit.
Also
https://www.rockler.com/t-slot-bolts-pack-of-five-1-4-20-thread?country=US&sid=V91040&promo=shopping&utm_so urce=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_content=p la&utm_campaign=PL&tid=pla&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgo_5BRDuA RIsADDEntSo-BjBVN3dzt6yPHelx48C3sl6QhHk6XwnOfodQRPO-QIYilrM05EaAks_EALw_wcB

Bob Kontak 09-02-2020 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 10967465)
Those look like resistance weld studs to me, they should maybe have be projection welded into the door about 100 years ago....

There are absolutely weld marks where the original weld studs were positioned.

However, the only stainless acorn nuts were 1/4-20 at Lowes, so brass toilet bolts for the win.


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Tidybuoy 09-02-2020 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11011289)
so brass toilet bolts for the win.

New, I hope

aschen 09-02-2020 10:10 AM

I love me some home depot engineering.

Scott Douglas 09-02-2020 03:40 PM

Dad's old '64 Travelall had mirrors a lot like that on it.
Had three gas tanks @60 gals total, split rims, it was a 1200 series.
They don't make them like that any more.

notmytarga 09-02-2020 04:56 PM

Beat me to it, by a month - toilet bolts is what I thought as well. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1599094527.jpg

Those non-wax rings are great. Reusable and a more secure seal. The void in the base of the toilet makes a good hidey hole. These rings make it simpler to use it.

Nostril Cheese 09-02-2020 05:05 PM

T bolt or Trim bolt.


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