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masraum 08-06-2020 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mpeastend (Post 10975969)
What's most amazing is that the grain elevator building next to the warehouses is still standing. Who built that?! That's impressive.

Absolutely. Need to find out who built it and have them start building housing in FL and Cali, levees in New Orleans, and dams everywhere.

masraum 08-06-2020 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10975880)
I will bet money that every port in the world will have a set of rules for explosive products after this. The government can just give the last owner 24 hours to get a sale in place or it is seized and will be sold the the highest bidder right now. Get that product back in the ships and delivered to the clients that know how to handle it.

Absolutely. And secretly, folks will probably call them the Beirut rules. You never want a rule named after you.

masraum 08-06-2020 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tcar (Post 10976019)
Um, no.... only part of it is still there.

It was solid concrete.

All things considered, a lot of it is still there. I consider it impressive. Concrete or no.

URY914 08-06-2020 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10976042)
All things considered, a lot of it is still there. I consider it impressive. Concrete or no.

It appears it was full of grain is the only reason it's still there

masraum 08-06-2020 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 10976054)
It appears it was full of grain is the only reason it's still there


I hear that grain is really strong structurally! ;)


I guess I could see that if the thing was full of grain, it would add some energy absorbing properties like a bean bag. Combined with a really substantial concrete building, I guess that's a good thing.

URY914 08-06-2020 10:51 AM

One of the close up pictures shows the grain flowing out if it.

masraum 08-06-2020 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 10976203)
One of the close up pictures shows the grain flowing out if it.

Water can crash, or water can flow. Be like water my friend.

URY914 08-06-2020 11:01 AM

I would say the lighter colored material "flowing "out of the silos would be gain. :rolleyes:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1596740455.jpg

masraum 08-06-2020 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 10976216)
I would say the lighter colored material "flowing "out of the silos would be gain. :rolleyes:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1596740455.jpg

Shouldn't that be green?

https://www.cvs.com/bizcontent/merch...7000127840.jpg

I'd thought that was just demolished building material, but grain seems like a reasonable assumption.

Geneman 08-06-2020 11:05 AM

apparently. the brownish color on top of the grain ( and everything else) is the oxidized nitrate from the explosion. which appeared in the mushroom cloud after the shock wave.. chemists told me...

URY914 08-06-2020 11:06 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1596740714.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1596740760.jpg

URY914 08-06-2020 11:08 AM

I'm always dropping my "r's".

masraum 08-06-2020 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Geneman (Post 10976222)
apparently. the brownish color on top of the grain ( and everything else) is the oxidized nitrate from the explosion. which appeared in the mushroom cloud after the shock wave.. chemists told me...

From wikipedia when discussing the Texas City 1947 incident (which was Ammonium Nitrate based).

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Eventually, the steam pressure inside the ship blew the hatches open, and yellow-orange smoke billowed out. This color is typical for nitrogen dioxide fumes.

masraum 08-06-2020 11:12 AM

That's A LOT of grain. I'm sure that having the substantial silo building full of grain is like having sand bags around, and probably helped the building withstand the blast.

Otter74 08-06-2020 11:43 AM

I read that it was about 85% of the country's grain reserves.

Rikao4 08-06-2020 12:34 PM

no bigly..
it's Beirut..
folks are used to eating lead ...


Rika

3rd_gear_Ted 08-06-2020 12:54 PM

In Enid OK, the Koch Corp. makes Ammonium Nitrate crystals and liquid Ammonia from a pipeline fed natural gas source.
The amount stored there is 100 x the size of that stash.
Everyday you prayed & worked in blast proof cargo containers below level and behind a earthen berm.
Great consultant pay, but a deadly place to be around.
Almost as bad as when I disposed of Sarin nerve gas @ Fort Dugway KY.

RWebb 08-06-2020 01:01 PM

I will bet money that the Beirut port had a set of rules for explosive products before this....

There were certainly a number of warnings and complaints about it.

RWebb 08-06-2020 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rd_gear_Ted (Post 10976365)
In Enid OK, the Koch Corp. makes Ammonium Nitrate crystals and liquid Ammonia from a pipeline fed natural gas source.
The amount stored there is 100 x the size of that stash.
Everyday you prayed & worked in blast proof cargo containers below level and behind a earthen berm.
Great consultant pay, but a deadly place to be around.
Almost as bad as when I disposed of Sarin nerve gas @ Fort Dugway KY.

https://www.enidnews.com/news/local_news/koch-fertilizer-looks-to-expand-enid-plant/article_29b37475-b66d-56ac-bc0a-071ee42ffc59.html

GH85Carrera 08-06-2020 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rd_gear_Ted (Post 10976365)
In Enid OK, the Koch Corp. makes Ammonium Nitrate crystals and liquid Ammonia from a pipeline fed natural gas source.
The amount stored there is 100 x the size of that stash.
Everyday you prayed & worked in blast proof cargo containers below level and behind a earthen berm.
Great consultant pay, but a deadly place to be around.
Almost as bad as when I disposed of Sarin nerve gas @ Fort Dugway KY.

I have been up close to that facility. The good news is they are a few miles outside the city, but just one mile from the airport. I bet they work hard at safety. Hope so.


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