Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Checked out
 
McLovin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: On a beach
Posts: 9,059
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evans, Marv View Post
^^^^ This. I've replaced plenty of water heaters. $2K for a simple replacement is ridiculous.
Agree, itís nuts.
I canít believe thereís so many guys here who donít believe they can competently screw a simple gas line on without blowing up their house. Doesnít take a Tim Hancock to do that.
Takes all kinds, I guess!

Old 08-30-2020, 01:52 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #21 (permalink)
devalued member
 
juanbenae's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Twain Harte Ca
Posts: 11,914
Garage
what did it do chris? is it leaking, or not firing? i had an old gas one i thought was going bad because i would lite the pilot, it would fire and only heat for a couple minutes and it would shut down again. i did some research and found a youtube video of some funny plumber from the boston area that suggested blowing or vacuuming out the vent screen at the bottom of the unit. mine was completely caked with dust and dog hair from being in the garage leading it to being starved of combustion air.. i simply removed the igniter unit to access the screen blew the dust and hair out and vac'd under the thing and all be if that was the problem. worked like new again.

if you are experiencing the start up and shut down like i did you may consider this being the issue.
__________________
75S slick-lid webered, early n spicy 3.oL hotrod wanabe (sold 2/21}
78SC PRC Spec911 (sold 12/15) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7I6HCCKrVQ
(build thread >) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/california-southwest-us-az-nv/443725-plunge.html
Old 08-30-2020, 02:10 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #22 (permalink)
Baz Baz is offline
G'day!
 
Baz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida
Posts: 32,013
Garage
Jeepers.....that's a heap of moola.

I've replaced my 40 gal. electric one here myself a couple times.

$3-400 for the heater and the rest is just my time and elbow grease.
__________________
Old dog....new tricks.....
Old 08-30-2020, 02:22 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #23 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 13,537
Quote:
Originally Posted by McLovin View Post
Agree, itís nuts.
I canít believe thereís so many guys here who donít believe they can competently screw a simple gas line on without blowing up their house. Doesnít take a Tim Hancock to do that.
Takes all kinds, I guess!
They can build a 911 motor, but can't replace a water heater.
Old 08-30-2020, 03:37 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #24 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 13,537
I need to mover to OR just to install water heaters, take my laborers with me, undercut everyone and leave my CA lic plate on. That's a lot of money. Where's the heater, in the basement mounted sideways?
Old 08-30-2020, 03:38 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #25 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Greensboro, NC
Posts: 22,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by look 171 View Post
They can build a 911 motor, but can't replace a water heater.
It's the H2O... scary stuff for air cooled guyz
Old 08-30-2020, 03:41 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #26 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 13,537
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC911 View Post
It's the H2O... scary stuff for air cooled guyz
They should not be so rigid and try the water variety. They even shift themselves
Old 08-30-2020, 03:45 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #27 (permalink)
Registered
 
cantdrv55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Slightly right of center
Posts: 6,837
Quote:
Originally Posted by juanbenae View Post
what did it do chris? is it leaking, or not firing? i had an old gas one i thought was going bad because i would lite the pilot, it would fire and only heat for a couple minutes and it would shut down again. i did some research and found a youtube video of some funny plumber from the boston area that suggested blowing or vacuuming out the vent screen at the bottom of the unit. mine was completely caked with dust and dog hair from being in the garage leading it to being starved of combustion air.. i simply removed the igniter unit to access the screen blew the dust and hair out and vac'd under the thing and all be if that was the problem. worked like new again.

if you are experiencing the start up and shut down like i did you may consider this being the issue.
It was leaking underneath. Itís 16 years old though. I wanted to DIY it but my bro says no. Itís his house and his money. He couldíve saved a bunch.
__________________
Dream big, aim high then show the world what you can do!
Old 08-30-2020, 04:20 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #28 (permalink)
Recreational Mechanic
 
Nickshu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Northern Colorado, USA
Posts: 3,023
Garage
About 3 months ago I had a 50 gallon, 65,000BTU, non-powered HydroJet water heater installed along with adding an expansion tank and the total was $2011.00 including removal and haul away of the old water heater. I am not sure how much more a 75 gallon is but it can't be that much more.
__________________
2020 Porsche GT4
1997 Porsche Boxster Race Car - SPB #94
Gone: 04 GT3, 03 Carrera, 82 911SC, Other non-Porsches
Old 08-30-2020, 04:28 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #29 (permalink)
Registered
 
JavaBrewer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: North County San Diego
Posts: 8,191
Garage
Water heater business is a scam. Fell for it once, to my credit I negotiated down but still stupid to pay what I did. Recently worked with look 171 and bought a WH locally for $700, replaced my defective unit same day by myself, and the shop took my old WH as scrap for free. Heck if I can dot almost anyone can.
Old 08-30-2020, 09:24 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #30 (permalink)
Registered
 
nota's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: cutler bay
Posts: 11,232
nuts

I did a tankless el for $250 inc an up rated breaker
use sharkbites way quicker then silver solder
__________________
QUESTION!!!
Old 08-30-2020, 10:17 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #31 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: So. Cal.
Posts: 7,576
When I first looked at tankless water heaters, I decided on propane because the electric ones drew 160A each at full tilt. My main panel is only 200A, though we'd probably never hit the full 320A running both. The two I have deliver 6+ gpm and we use an average of .23 gal./day. (The tankless water heaters are the only gas appliances we have. The rest of the house is electric.) There is only me & the wife though.
__________________
Marv Evans
'69 911E

Last edited by Evans, Marv; 08-30-2020 at 10:32 PM..
Old 08-30-2020, 10:30 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #32 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 13,537
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evans, Marv View Post
When I first looked at tankless water heaters, I decided on propane because the electric ones drew 160A each at full tilt. My main panel is only 200A, though we'd probably never hit the full 320A running both. The two I have deliver 6+ gpm and we use an average of .23 gal./day. (The tankless water heaters are the only gas appliances we have. The rest of the house is electric.) There is only me & the wife though.
You use propane to heat the house also?

I love tankless water heaters only if its a newly remodel home. I learned my lesson early on when these things came on the market. I put in the next biggest units available for the size specify by the mfg. Now, I install two little ones to run each side of the home. Its much more efficient eliminating re-circ pump and all the other PITA, costly items. Unless its a smaller home where one will do the trick, then we install re-circ pump and timer. Most people do not maintain them yearly and life shortens. Many are too cheap to install the scale filter, a very important item. They are great investments with endless hot water and a huge space saver. I run conventional water heaters in all my rentals. Change them out every 12 years. Good or bad, I send my workmen out and get rid of them to eliminate problems with whiny tenants. No electronics to go bad, it just works. I am ok with an electric cook top. I really like the new convention cook tops. Electric oven is far superior. Iknow these things but I do not cook. Can't cook. I may burn down my house if I boil water.
Old 08-30-2020, 11:33 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #33 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 13,537
Quote:
Originally Posted by JavaBrewer View Post
Water heater business is a scam. Fell for it once, to my credit I negotiated down but still stupid to pay what I did. Recently worked with look 171 and bought a WH locally for $700, replaced my defective unit same day by myself, and the shop took my old WH as scrap for free. Heck if I can dot almost anyone can.

Dave, if you think about it, 400 labor isn't that bad. It takes a couple hours to perform the actual install depending on the location and the size of the heater. Plumber makes 100 per hour? He has to go get the new heater and get it to you yet he has to haul the old one back to dump it. That's a couple hours of work. Maybe a helper to get the dang thing in there especially the 75 gal giant. This includes his over head. Gas isn't cheap.

Hey man, I am glad it worked out for you.
Old 08-30-2020, 11:36 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #34 (permalink)
Registered
 
MBAtarga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Lawrenceville GA 30045
Posts: 5,975
We paid $1875 for two 50 Gal gas Rheem heaters and expansion tank with new (rerouted) plumbing. The original two heaters had been plumbed incorrectly/efficiently so they were plumbed in pseudo parallel. New guy plumbed them correctly in series so the first tank is set to get water warm and the 2nd at normal operating (hot) temp. We've also got a water circulation pump to provide close to "instant" hot water even at the furthest bath/shower.
__________________
Mark

'83 SC Targa - since 5/5/2001
'06 911 S Aerokit - from 5/2/2016 to 11/14/2018
Old 08-31-2020, 07:08 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #35 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: So. Cal.
Posts: 7,576
Jeff. No I don't heat the house with propane. Like I said in my post, the tankless water heaters are the only gas appliances. The rest of the house is electric. Plus, like I said, the daily average propane usage for me & the wife is .21 gal./day (or slightly less than a quart for the two water heaters). I have a 250 gal. tank that was filled on 5/31/18 and refilled on 6/23/20 with 146.6 gal. The last time I descaled mine was seven years ago & I had no scale then after three years of use. I think my water softener (80K grain) is doing a good job.
__________________
Marv Evans
'69 911E

Last edited by Evans, Marv; 08-31-2020 at 09:48 AM..
Old 08-31-2020, 09:45 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #36 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 13,537
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evans, Marv View Post
Jeff. No I don't heat the house with propane. Like I said in my post, the tankless water heaters are the only gas appliances. The rest of the house is electric. Plus, like I said, the daily average propane usage for me & the wife is .21 gal./day (or slightly less than a quart for the two water heaters). I have a 250 gal. tank that was filled on 5/31/18 and refilled on 6/23/20 with 146.6 gal. The last time I descaled mine was seven years ago & I had no scale then after three years of use. I think my water softener (80K grain) is doing a good job.
Just by having the water softener, it will lengthen the life of those tankless water heaters another 10 years.

It really rare to find homes that has electric heat up here. Most are gas except some of the home or condos that were built in the 70s where they are all electric. How's that electric bill during winter months
Old 08-31-2020, 10:09 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #37 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: So. Cal.
Posts: 7,576
My electric bill is zero. I have solar panels (should break even maybe next year) and sold 3 megs of power back to SDG&E last June (@ 2 cents/kW - what a ripoff). I ordered a Tesla Model Y for my wife which I'm going to use that 3 megs to charge in the future. If I have to pay them because of chrgeing the car, I may just add more panels.
__________________
Marv Evans
'69 911E

Last edited by Evans, Marv; 08-31-2020 at 10:30 AM..
Old 08-31-2020, 10:28 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #38 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 13,537
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evans, Marv View Post
My electric bill is zero. I have solar panels (should break even maybe next year) and sold 3 megs of power back to SDG&E last June (@ 2 cents/kW - what a ripoff). I ordered a Tesla Model Y for my wife which I'm going to use that 3 megs to charge in the future. If I have to pay them because of chrgeing the car, I may just add more panels.
Interesting. I want to install solar panels dedicated to my AC unit but not hook up to the grid in anyway. Have a switch on those muggy days without full sun during the summer or to keep power from flowing back into the grid. I know, it isn't allowed. Other then that, I would be glad to pay for power on all other items through out the house. We don't use all that much power beside the few lights and microwave to heat up left overs and the kids on their computers.
Old 08-31-2020, 10:40 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #39 (permalink)
Registered
 
Tidybuoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 7,036
Garage
Could depend on your WH location, specifically if it's in a closet. I recently replaced water heaters in my rentals and the water heaters fit in their respective closets but the door opening was too narrow and required me to do some construction.

For my house, I installed a Tankless and that required me to enlarge the gas supply line.

__________________
Vern
'06 Cayman S - Arctic Silver, "R" Springs & Struts, Spyder 19" Wheels, 82mm Plenum & Throttle Body.
'74 911 Coupe - Silber Metalic, PMO ITB, Electromotive Mgt
'16 BMW R Nine T, '17 BMW G310R, '21 BMW R1250RS
Old 08-31-2020, 10:47 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #40 (permalink)
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:21 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2020 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.