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If a bearing had failed there should be a high concentration of lead, tin and zinc in the oil sample.
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Iron, aluminum, chromium. All sounds like piston wearing on cylinder bore. Chromium is used in some piston rings, and in cheaper to produce catalytic converter substrates. The catalytic converter material is getting inside your engine.
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I’d like you guys to explain to me how the material from a damaged cat can get inside the crank case of an engine.
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I don't think your grasping that this cat collapsed on itself all at once plugging the exhaust off almost completely. |
That’s not possible. If the cat plugged completely, the engine would stop immediately. As long as it was running, exhaust was flowing in only one direction through the cat. The flow may be substantially reduced but it is still moving in the same direction as normal.
Even if what you say is possible, and it is not, it still doesn’t get into the crankcase. |
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How does silicone from a lack of filtration get into the crankcase? |
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Silicon (no e on the end) can get into an engine in a bunch of different ways. What you are likely referring to is silicon from dust, which gets into the cylinders because of inadequate air filtration. Some small percentage of this gets in the crankcase via the blow-by gassed that get past the piston rings. In any event, read this for more information on silicon in an engine oil analysis. It’s not always necessarily bad news. https://www.blackstone-labs.com/the-silicon-bugaboo/?session-id=phmbg5zdv0qytab0tee3tj45&timeout=20&bslauth=&ur lbase=https%3a%2f%2fwww.blackstone-labs.net%2fBstone%2f(S(phmbg5zdv0qytab0tee3tj45))% 2f |
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Keep costs down material corners get cut. Some aftermarket tuners (on Nissan I believe) have gained 50-70 hp just by changing the VVT strategies. That’s the simple version. There’s obviously more to it. Exhaust reversion, sound (Pressure)waves, etc. |
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Read Dan's explanation. As to the car not being able to run. Come on over and I'll show ya. Mind you that this time it didn't completely collapse as it did the last time. But as I pointed out, the complete collapse the previous time caused the engine to shutdown completely but it did start up and it did run with a plugged cat. And I'm done arguing this point. You should move on as well. |
I believe Dansvan is correct, this is something I have read about before. All speculation, but I think it can happen. Google gives you lots of examples (all unverified).
The engine simply cannot run with a fully plugged cat. It can run with a partially plugged cat, so maybe we are just parsing words now. I doubt the cat was or is 100% blocked. |
So this isn't a new thing...Maserati and Nissan seem to be pretty common culprits according to Google.
Here is some info: https://www.motorweek.org/features/goss_garage/catalytic-converter-issues |
The thing that I really can't wrap my mind around is why there were no codes in the ECU for emissions. Both times there weren't any codes for any issues when the cat failed. I'd think the upstream and downstream would have been way out of range which should have set a code and illuminated the CEL.
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Maybe there was no error to display....
What if the cat simply failed and the debris went back into the engine causing serious damage? Rereading your post from page 1, the clogged cat is speculation. I think it's an unlikely mode of failure. Lots of other events are more probable, and still lead down the same road. I would like to see what the cylinder bores look like now... |
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