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stomachmonkey 09-04-2020 05:38 PM

How would you handle
 
The handles.

Swapping kitchen cabinet hardware.

Changing doors from a single hole knob to double hole handle.

I have two faux doors in the island.

They don稚 open as they are on the opposite side of the microwave.

There is no access other than removing the microwave which I知 reserving as a last resort.

The screws that the knobs attach to currently are glued into the door.

I知 thinking, drill the second hole and put glue a dowel in it leaving just dimple for the bottom handle hole to come to rest in and use loctite on the top.

Thoughts?

Any better ideas?

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ben parrish 09-04-2020 05:52 PM

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look 171 09-04-2020 06:11 PM

You are going from a pull to a knob? Two holes to one? If so, cut the handle in near the center and spin it out

Noah930 09-04-2020 06:12 PM

I think your idea is probably the best. Ben's idea is great, but then you'll likely find every size in the world except for the thread pitch you need when you go to Home Depot, and even if you do find the right size, you can't screw in the handle into the inset hanger bolt anyway (because of the other bolt up top).

So just worry about screwing in one bolt (the top one that's already there), and then just glue in the other (bottom) with glue instead of a hanger bolt. You're not going to be pulling on that pull much, anyway. It's just decorative.

stomachmonkey 09-04-2020 06:22 PM

Going from a knob to a pull.

The current bolt for the original knob is glued in place.

There is no access to the back of the door without pulling the
Microwave.

So I can spin the top of the handle onto the existing glued in bolt but need to secure the bottom of the handle somehow.

Sooner or later 09-04-2020 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11014866)
Going from a knob to a pull.

The current bolt for the original knob is glued in place.

There is no access to the back of the door without pulling the
Microwave.

So I can spin the top of the handle onto the existing glued in bolt but need to secure the bottom of the handle somehow.

I see your problem. You can spin the handle to tighten up one side, but you can't spin the handle to tighten up the other.

The tiny nub and epoxy/adhesives for the other side is all I can think of.

Eric Coffey 09-04-2020 06:47 PM

Pulls on faux doors? Why not just remove/fill/stain, and save the pulls for the doors that are functional?

stomachmonkey 09-04-2020 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11014871)
I see your problem. You can spin the handle to tighten up one side, but you can't spin the handle to tighten up the other.

The tiny nub and epoxy/adhesives for the other side is all I can think of.

You just made me realize it痴 worse than that.

Not in the pic but there are actually two doors.

The current bolts for the knobs are closer together than the length of the handles.

So even if I can spin the 1st one on it will prevent the second from spinning on.

Think I値l just try breaking the bolts lose and knocking them back into the cavity behind the door.

Drill the second hole slightly smaller than the bolt.

Thread bolts into the handle then slide them straight in using glue to secure.

dad911 09-04-2020 06:50 PM

Drill the hole larger on one side of the new handle so it slips on. I'd put a drywall or similar small screw on the other side, cut off the head, so the handle slides onto the two screw 'studs'. Put some 5 minute epoxy in the handle holes, slide it over the studs, and wait 5 minutes.... ;)

Edit - or for the second stud use a screw in the handle, and put the epoxy in a drilled hole on the door.

stomachmonkey 09-04-2020 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Coffey (Post 11014885)
Pulls on faux doors? Why not just remove/fill/stain, and save the pulls for the doors that are functional?

There are 4 doors in a row in the island, two functional and two faux.

It値l mess with the aesthetic.

If you want to suggest it to my wife I値l PM you her number cause I知 not even broaching the subject.

stomachmonkey 09-04-2020 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 11014889)
Drill the hole larger on one side of the new handle so it slips on. I'd put a drywall or similar small screw on the other side, so the handle slides onto the two studs. Put some 5 minute epoxy in the handle holes, slide it over the studs, and wait 5 minutes.... ;)

Kinda what I知 thinking but a bit in reverse on the second hole.

No access to the back side of the door.

It痴 all gotta be done from the front side.

look 171 09-04-2020 07:15 PM

This one is going to be a btich without some scaring. Get good with your sawall or oscillating cut off tool and go after the screw. Pop it out with a punch and epoxy a stud onto the cab like Dad911 suggested. Have your wife pull on the handle and get at that screw. Its only about 3/16. I more then likely metric on the new one so be mindful of that when you go and buy the screws.

This will minimize damage to your stain grade cabinets
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john70t 09-04-2020 08:59 PM

Put on 5 layers of blue tape over a 1' area.
Then tape on a metal plate with a hole larger than the stud but smaller than the handle diameter where it touches.
That will protect the rest of the door while you do any surgery.

I like thin cutoff wheels at low speed but they can grab and walk.

Eric Coffey 09-04-2020 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11014890)
There are 4 doors in a row in the island, two functional and two faux.

It’ll mess with the aesthetic.

If you want to suggest it to my wife I’ll PM you her number cause I’m not even broaching the subject.

Gotcha, and LOL, I'll pass! :D

Although, Just know that you will definitely be prone to forgetting which doors are "real" and grabbing the faux handles all the time. :p

Seriously, I get the desire to maintain continuity, but pulls on not-working doors just doesn't seem right. Any chance of going "handle-less" on all the doors on the island?

Maybe a zoomed-out pic would help. ;)

oldE 09-05-2020 02:15 AM

Stop trying to find a "shortcut" and pull the microwave.

Best
Les

Zeke 09-05-2020 05:22 AM

Dremel the screws and then do what others have said, thread in headless screws and push then into holes drilled for a tight fit. A little glue of almost any sort should do the job and a clean threaded shaft is the perfect situation for glue other than really thin instant glue. You can also put a little glue directly into the new hole with a Q-Tip. If things are a bit sloppy, wet the inside of the hole and coat the threads with Gorilla (polyurethane) glue and it will expand. Just need to coat the tip of the threads and tape in place to hold the angle you need for a couple hours.


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