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A930Rocket 09-13-2020 05:44 PM

Wireless security cameras?
 
What’s the latest and greatest in wireless security cameras?

I have the Blink system I brought from our old house, but for the life of me, I can get it to connect with our WiFi system. Same router, modem, password, etc. but no dice. It shows the correct password, but it just won’t accept it and I’ve tried eleventy hundred times.

So, I’m thinking it’s just old and I’ll get a new Blink system. Took a look and prices are higher than three years ago.

So, what everyone is using now?

Edit: any advice on getting the old system working?

stevej37 09-13-2020 05:59 PM

Have you tried deleting the camera from the computer and re-installing?
I've had to do that with my Nest Cams once...fixed the problem.

Baz 09-13-2020 06:15 PM

I will be getting that Arlo Pro 3 soon.

Here is the thread:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/1061721-security-camera-questions.html

wildthing 09-13-2020 06:18 PM

There must be a way to reset the Blink camera.

If it were me, I'd get an Arlo Pro 3.

A930Rocket 09-13-2020 06:51 PM

I’ve reset and unplugged/plugged in the synch every time I try to re-install it. I get the blue/green flashing light, select my WiFi and enter the password. The synch module light turns red after 20-30 seconds and game over.

One question I have is how do I pick the 2.4 or 5.0 ghz(?) WiFi. Looking at my phone, it doesn’t give me an option, but I see it on the router. It’s just one name. Could this be the problem?

I’ll also unplug/plug in both the router and synch module tomorrow to see what happens.

I have four cameras, so I’m not ready to give up yet and spend $3-400 clams.

jyl 09-13-2020 07:13 PM

I had that problem recently. Just kept trying. Took like ten ! tries. Never did figure out what the issue was. Hasn’t recurred.

biosurfer1 09-13-2020 07:15 PM

2.4 and 5 will have different SSID's. They might have a similar name but it's usually something like "A930RocketWIFI2.4" and "A930RocketWIFI5.0".

A device only capable of 2.4 wont see a 5.0 SSID so that shouldn't be a problem.

A930Rocket 09-13-2020 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11025016)
I had that problem recently. Just kept trying. Took like ten ! tries. Never did figure out what the issue was. Hasn’t recurred.

Blink FAQ’s says the password is usually the problem, but I just reset my phone and laptop, so the password is good.

I find it hard to believe I can enter the password wrong that many times. Especially when it shows the correct password. 🤬🤬🤬

The real reason I’m looking at them again, is because my wife’s Tahoe was broken into the other night. One of two in the neighborhood. They took some CD’s and her moms handicap placard.

Jack Stands 09-13-2020 07:44 PM

I’ve been happy with the Wyze cameras. They’re inexpensive and have clearer Video than the wired system at my office.

Nickshu 09-13-2020 08:01 PM

I'm using Ring. Very happy with the setup. Have 6 cameras so far mostly outdoors.

Sent from my Galaxy S20+ using Tapatalk

wildthing 09-13-2020 08:14 PM

Unless you named the 2.4 and 5Ghz differently, it would be the same ssid. It will automatically connect to the stronger signal. (2.4 the farther from the WiFi base.)

Are you sure you are typing your password correctly? Have you tried connecting anything else new?

petrolhead611 09-14-2020 01:11 AM

I have the Ring system. 3 cameras so far, each bought when they have one of the deals running.

KFC911 09-14-2020 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11024952)
What’s the latest and greatest in wireless security cameras?

I have the Blink system I brought from our old house, but for the life of me, I can get it to connect with our WiFi system. Same router, modem, password, etc. but no dice. It shows the correct password, but it just won’t accept it and I’ve tried eleventy hundred times.


Edit: any advice on getting the old system working?

It usually takes eleventy hundred and 3 dozen tries!

Try "hard selecting" anything that might be negotiating between the two, renaming the SSIDs, device names, etc.

Cuss at them both :D

Good luck!

stomachmonkey 09-14-2020 10:28 AM

Since you are trying to connect to the "old" network and not succeeding try renaming the SSID's and set everything up from scratch.

Last week I spent 3 days trying to fix something that should have been an easy fix.

Got up Saturday morning and said **** it, started from scratch. Was done in 2 hours and problem gone.

Sometimes trying to fix stuff is the long way around.

pksystems 09-14-2020 10:30 AM

I have 5 wyze cams. If they had the ability to be viewed from a desktop, they would be perfect.

pmax 09-14-2020 01:54 PM

Not sure I would want video and audio feeds from my home being sent to some random server somewhere out there in the Interweb perhaps even in one of your favorite countries overseas.

No one here have any concerns about privacy ?

stevej37 09-14-2020 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11025656)
Since you are trying to connect to the "old" network and not succeeding try renaming the SSID's and set everything up from scratch.

Last week I spent 3 days trying to fix something that should have been an easy fix.

Got up Saturday morning and said **** it, started from scratch. Was done in 2 hours and problem gone.

Sometimes trying to fix stuff is the long way around.


This.
Highly doubtful that your cameras quit working in the move.
Delete everything...start from scratch.

A930Rocket 09-14-2020 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11025968)
This.
Highly doubtful that your cameras quit working in the move.
Delete everything...start from scratch.

BRDT, but I’m going to try everything again tomorrow....delete the app, reinstall, unplug/plug in router and synch module, new system name and hope it works.

If it doesn’t, I’ll be forced to read the directions or contact Blink...

pmax 09-15-2020 12:45 AM

Are you sure they didn't get hacked ?

These devices are notorious for their lack of security.

KFC911 09-15-2020 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11026348)
BRDT, but I’m going to try everything again tomorrow....delete the app, reinstall, unplug/plug in router and synch module, new system name and hope it works.

If it doesn’t, I’ll be forced to read the directions or contact Blink...

Been outta the game a long time... but it isn't magic. Start from scratch and KISS, renaming, etc. until you pinpoint where in the "hand shake"... you're getting a middle finger instead? Oh yeah... can't you ask yer kid for help ;)?

Make sure you're resetting all devices back to "factory defaults"... so nothing is cached, etc. Good luck!

fintstone 09-15-2020 08:02 AM

Your Blink sync module has a small hole with a reset button (use a paperclip or similar).

stevej37 09-15-2020 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 11026545)
Oh yeah... can't you ask yer kid for help ;)?
Good luck!


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1990C4S 09-15-2020 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11025025)
The real reason I’m looking at them again, is because my wife’s Tahoe was broken into the other night. One of two in the neighborhood. They took some CD’s and her moms handicap placard.

Off topic, but how does a camera help?

stomachmonkey 09-15-2020 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11026917)
Off topic, but how does a camera help?

They don't really.

I have them up as a deterrent mostly.

The evil red ring for the IR is obvious at night and may make someone think twice, maybe, I hope at least.

As far as quality, unless you are running 4K cameras about all you'll get out of it is knowing what time some person showed up for shenanigans. Identifying them? Good luck with that.

Vipergrün 09-15-2020 10:37 AM

just reading the tail-end of this thread. If you are trying to connect to a 5ghz, rather than 2.4, this could cause the problem....

1990C4S 09-15-2020 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11026967)
They don't really.

I have them up as a deterrent mostly.

The evil red ring for the IR is obvious at night and may make someone think twice, maybe, I hope at least.

As far as quality, unless you are running 4K cameras about all you'll get out of it is knowing what time some person showed up for shenanigans. Identifying them? Good luck with that.

Where I live even high quality daytime video footage of a 'minor crime' does not go anywhere, that's why I was wondering.

I would be more inclined to install fake cameras and some motion lights.

pmax 09-15-2020 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 11026514)
I woud not own wirless crap either.

Not sure if anyone else realizes this, the software running on them are basically hacked up proprietary versions of "open source" OS, good luck with vetting them for security holes. And that's just the unintended ones.

Of course, I assume people here care about their privacy and do mind others spying on their homes.

fintstone 09-15-2020 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11027089)
Where I live even high quality daytime video footage of a 'minor crime' does not go anywhere, that's why I was wondering.

I would be more inclined to install fake cameras and some motion lights.

I use the blink cameras as an alarm system. Motion sets them off. My Iphone buzzes and a video pops up showing exactly what set it off. I can call the cops if not home. If home, I know what I will confront before I go check it out (helps with weapon choice). I might have a mouse in the garage, a snake...of a crook. It also alerts me to packages delivered.

A930Rocket 09-15-2020 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vipergrün (Post 11026982)
just reading the tail-end of this thread. If you are trying to connect to a 5ghz, rather than 2.4, this could cause the problem....

On my phone/Blink app, it only shows the name of the WiFi. As mentioned earlier, it should pick up the 2.4 automatically.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11026917)
Off topic, but how does a camera help?

Let’s me know if someone is a little too close to the house. As mentioned, my phone dings or vibrates and I know I have a “visitor “.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 11026796)
Your Blink sync module has a small hole with a reset button (use a paperclip or similar).

Tried that a hundred times (plus unplug/plug in power.

GH85Carrera 09-16-2020 08:57 AM

A few years ago I looked into all of the wireless systems as they are in theory easier to set up than a wired one. After a lot of looking, and NOT wanting a subscription based video storage I ended up with the DVR, and 4 cameras that all run off of Power over Ethernet, or PoE. The cat 5e cables and a switch in my desk cabinet, and drag cables up the wall and to each corner of the house. Dirty hot itchy work. Attic work is never fun.

In the end, I have a system that only cost the electricity to run it, and it stores a 8 days over the most boring video on the planet. My driveway, side yard, back yard and back door. I think the entire DVR and 4 cameras was about $500. I can add more cameras and they are color HD cameras with infrared B&W at night.

It did let me capture the moment a pizza delivery guy smacked into the garden dry stack retaining wall. It did more damage to his mom's minivan than the wall. I picked up one stone, and placed it back into position.

It just runs flawlessly 24/7/365. I never have bothered to put the system on the internet, so it is 100% hack proof and even if someone hacked it, they would die from boredom watching the yards at my house. Wow, there goes the dog to take go pee, look there, the dog chased the bird. Wow, a car drove down the street!

1990C4S 09-16-2020 11:43 AM

Put this beside the car and turn your phone off so you can sleep all night.

https://www.amazon.com/Blaster-Activated-Sprinkler-Repellent-Hoont/dp/B07FP9PSWL/ref=asc_df_B07FP9PSWL/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=241993630058&hvpos=&hvnetw= g&hvrand=5986075999689359857&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt =&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9016862&hvt argid=pla-587755679197&psc=1

Bill Douglas 09-16-2020 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11028421)
Put this beside the car and turn your phone off so you can sleep all night.

LOL that's pretty funny.

It reminds me of the youtube of the guy who setup the fake UPS box on his doorstep with a (pellet-less) shotgun cartridge in it.

flipper35 09-16-2020 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biosurfer1 (Post 11025021)
2.4 and 5 will have different SSID's. They might have a similar name but it's usually something like "A930RocketWIFI2.4" and "A930RocketWIFI5.0".

A device only capable of 2.4 wont see a 5.0 SSID so that shouldn't be a problem.

Depends on the wireless access point in the router. Some deliver both frequencies under the same SSID. Especially the better ones.

onewhippedpuppy 09-16-2020 01:23 PM

I have four Arlo Pro 2 cameras and a doorbell, all outside. I was able to get close enough to power sources to have them all plugged in, I did have to add two outdoor outlets but it was worth it to not deal with batteries. Video is good, audio is good, the ability to talk back has a significant lag. The UI is pretty good but not perfect, despite my best efforts setting the activity zone my porch flag still sets off the doorbell alert sometimes, sometimes it still dings for a person when it’s my dog, you can’t change the alert tone so it sounds just like a text message, and it’s $10 per month per camera for them to continuously record, even with a local HD. Otherwise it only records the alert video and stores them for a week. Overall I’m happy and would probably get them again, I like that they aren’t tied to Amazon or Google who have a history of giving away or using camera data.

A930Rocket 09-16-2020 09:28 PM

I hadn’t thought about in a long time, because it just sits there, but I have dash cam at the top of my windshield, next to the mirror. 🤪 I was parked facing out, so maybe I’ll see something.

I’ll download it this weekend and see what’s on it.

petrolhead611 09-17-2020 01:03 AM

I have used a 4 amp power supply with a 7 amp backup battery to power my WiFi/router and also the hub for my Hive system. My electricity meter box is on an external house wall (common practice in the UK)so it's vulnerable to possible interference by an intruder.All my PIRs and cameras are battery operated.

Baz 09-17-2020 05:53 AM

My trail camera has helped me figure out what's going on wrt wildlife in the area. These pics from last night shows me who was stealing my cat's food from the garage, for example.....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1600347016.JPG

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1600347016.JPG

pmax 09-17-2020 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11028225)
It just runs flawlessly 24/7/365. I never have bothered to put the system on the internet, so it is 100% hack proof and even if someone hacked it, they would die from boredom watching the yards at my house. Wow, there goes the dog to take go pee, look there, the dog chased the bird. Wow, a car drove down the street!

The other thing is when these devices are hacked and taken over, they become part of an army. So your wireless interweb vidcam might well be a bit player in an attack which empties grandma’s bank account ��

Hugh R 09-17-2020 12:02 PM

I have Ring on my house, I saw a guy the other day while RVing in Paso Robles who had a battery operated Ring doorbell on the side of his RV, he said it will go off when he's not with the RV, he uses the RV park wifi, or his own hot spot. He said a few times it has gone off on his phone and he's seen someone next to his RV checking what isn't locked down. He gets on his phone and says "what's up" to the doorbell and the person invariably says "Oh, I was just admiring your rig.

I may well get one from my RV, I've had a few things disappear in the middle of the night, at Public RV parks, stupid stuff like a cheap folding chair, and a $3 walmart solar light.


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