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In praise of Michelin Pilot Sports

It's been a while since I put new tires on a car, and forgot just how great these tires are.
I ran older versions on my '02 Mini Cooper S, my old '04 R32 and now my '06 911S.

In have an Audi A3 Sportback that had been running the OEM all season something , which I was using it as my shared family car, so it was completely stock.

I put on the new Pilot Sports T4, a set of Hawk Street pads, and hellloooo fun.

It changed the dynamics, the feel and of course the handling..
No more tire spin at then start and exit ramps are fun, again.
Thanks Michelin !


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My Favs are Michelin and Bridgestone. They both seem to make REALLY great high perf tires. I tried some Hankook Ventus tires a long time ago that everyone raved about, and I thought they had moderate grip and horrible hydroplane characteristics. I also had some Yokohamas that got good reviews. They seemed to have stiff sidewalls and inadequate grip. You can get Bridgestones and Michelins that I don't love, but the Max/Extreme perf models generally seem to be tops.
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I've used the OEM Pilot Sports on my M2 a few times on track. I'm impressed with their durability and overall competence. They are slower than the RS4s I generally run, but they serve the car well on track during the shoulder seasons in April and October.
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That is what I have on my 911. I do like them. I don't have the Sport Plus, just the sport. They fell good driving in the rain, on the interstate, and just fine on track. A good overall tire. And in cold weather, they will not crack like some ultra high performance tires.
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I never heard of them cracking, and I ran them everyday, winter and summer.
But certainly not in any snow or ice...that would not end well
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I put them on our Honda Odyssey when we had it. Really nice riding tires.
The Michelin Defenders I put on our CR-V are really great too.
Really upped the ride quality and overall general driving experience of the car.
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Must be nice to be so rich that you can afford whatever you want.
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Must be nice to be so rich that you can afford whatever you want.
I wouldn't know as I certainly don't fall into that category.
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$ 800 rich...?
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$ 800 rich...?
For a lot of people, yes, that is a lot to spend on tires.
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On the topic of spending money on tires, they are the only things that connect your car to the road. Just as importantly, if not more so, tires are what stop your car. Spend as much as you possibly can on the best tires for your car, especially one that carries your family.

Why Braking Is All About Tires... If you want to upgrade your brakes, start with your tires.
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Must be nice to be so rich that you can afford whatever you want.
Actually it is nice. I worked hard all my life. Now I own a business and make enough money that my wife and I each buy what what we want. It makes getting presents impossible. She asked me what I want for my birthday and I had no clue. Same for her.

We don't run with the jet set or take lavish vacations, and blow money on stupid stuff. We live in a house that we paid off years ago. No car payments. No kids, no debt at all.

I have been so broke I ate rice and potatoes for a week or two just to save enough to pay the utility bills. I survived on less than a nickle a day for food. It sucked. I got a second job and worked a lot of overtime to get ahead.

I only get a couple of years out of a set of tires for my 911, because I autocross and run on the race track and they eats up tires pretty fast. My wife never even blinks when I get a new set of tires.
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For a lot of people, yes, that is a lot to spend on tires.
911 boost sounds spendy, doesn’t it .
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On the topic of spending money on tires, they are the only things that connect your car to the road. Just as importantly, if not more so, tires are what stop your car. Spend as much as you possibly can on the best tires for your car, especially one that carries your family.

Why Braking Is All About Tires... If you want to upgrade your brakes, start with your tires.
The Hawk brakes were just as good a move.
If you are going to move faster, better be able to stop faster.
These are sweet, with much better pedal feel, as advertised.
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$800 on tires? Have you priced tires lately? That's a good deal. I also worked hard all my life and now am at peace spending anything I want on anything I want. Hope y'all get to that point.
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Must be nice to be so rich that you can afford whatever you want.
Porsche forum.

Not many here were born rich from what I gather.

Other forums for that I suppose.

New tires are one of life's joys.
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I was given a budget for the tires on the CR-V and felt lucky to get the Mich's for under $800.
Shopping for my own car, the one with 19" rims, I got a $600 budget, which I was able to meet with some Goodyears. Maybe not my first choice but the car sure drives better with them than the ones that were on it.

And I agree, new tires are one of life's joys.
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Spend as much as you possibly can on the best tires for your car, especially one that carries your family.
That has always been the way I approach tire purchases, Shaun.
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My Cayenne is due for tires in the next 3 months. I was looking into these yesterday at Tirerack. Was looking for quieter tires compared to the current Toyo Proxes, but still wanted the M+S rating.

I am about to settle on these Pilot Sport A/S N3 at $335 a pop, but they're on back order.
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I am about to settle on these Pilot Sport A/S N3 at $335 a pop, but they're on back order.
I have these on my BMW for winter driving. They are all around excellent tires, you'll be pleased with them.

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