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A930Rocket 11-12-2020 07:17 AM

What do we know about ATV's?
 
I used to ride a dirt bike, but it's been a long time, I'm 61 and thought I'd get a used ATV to try out. Something under $3k. Being 6' 4" and 275 lbs., what size would I be looking for? Is a 250 too small?

What brands are the best for DIY maintenance?

Keep in mind, I'm not jumping hills or setting land speed records, just cruising in the woods, etc.


Here are a few in my area I'm seeing online.

Edit: there seems to be a lot of scams for nice looking ATV's for dirt cheap. Scammers must have moved on from cars to ATV's?

https://charleston.craigslist.org/snw/d/johns-island-07-honda-recon-250-atv/7228666606.html

https://charleston.craigslist.org/snw/d/summerville-sc20011-honda-rincon-680/7205714648.html SCAM

https://savannah.craigslist.org/snw/d/savannah-honda-4x4-atv-motor-680cc/7210186779.html SCAM. Same ATV as above, but the picture is reversed and a different town.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/snw/d/walterboro-2008-yamaha-grizzly-350/7217985050.html

https://savannah.craigslist.org/snw/d/midway-polaris-atv-425/7219969239.html

https://savannah.craigslist.org/snw/d/midway-yamaha-big-bear-250/7223671653.html

Seahawk 11-12-2020 07:39 AM

There are some deals in the links and the below is scam-ma-lama, ding-dong:

https://charleston.craigslist.org/snw/d/summerville-sc20011-honda-rincon-680/7205714648.html

My daughter lives in Charleston and "go see it".

ATV's are great but a side by side is more better [sic] depending on the trails you want to ride.

Honda is the standard in my experience - never owned one but have had a number of friends bring them on the farm. A 250 is plenty but smallish.

Rusty Heap 11-12-2020 07:41 AM

at 6' 4" you're way too big for those "mid size" machines.


Yamaha has one of the best over-all platforms...........I've owned all mfr's.



grizzly 660 or 700 with powersteering is hard to be beat.


Don't forget the option of getting a side by side for the comfort and passenger hauling.

A930Rocket 11-12-2020 07:50 AM

Thanks. guys.

I'd like a side by side, but don't have a place to keep it or want a trailer to haul it. Plus, I want to keep the price down for now.

Just noticed that some have automatic transmissions. Is that an issue vs. manual shift?

Edit: I need to look at places to ride again. Last time, we used to ride in the Francis Marion National Forest. Lots of sand, swamp and pine trees.

ckelly78z 11-12-2020 07:54 AM

I have had many different Honda, and Yamaha 3 wheelers, and now have a Polaris 330 Magnum that is a full sized unit, but 2WD. I picked up a used Kawasaki Mule side by side that is much easier to get into, and out of, (55 and not getting any younger) not to mention a comfortable bench for 3 people, a tilting bed, and a roof/windshield. We also mounted an LED lightbar on the hood for nighttime work.

I still enjoy bashing around the farm lanes, and trails on my Kawasaki KLR250 enduro, but it takes some effort to swing a leg over, and kick start.

My first choice will always be a Honda because of dead nuts reliability, and I think at our age, a side by side makes the most sense, and utility, but they aren't cheap because everyone wants one.

911boost 11-12-2020 07:55 AM

Polaris, hands down if you can find an older Sportsman.

Made in the USA (as are a lot of them now actually). I had a 1996 Polaris Sportsman 500 for about 15 years and it never failed to start, even when cold where my friends fuel injected ones would not. One was a Grizzly and the other a Honda. It was pretty indestructible and I am 6-4, but 215# and fit just fine.

BK911 11-12-2020 08:12 AM

The honda trx250ex is an auto clutch, meaning you dont need to clutch it to switch gears.
That's wifey's go to so she can actually stop on the trail and not stall out if forgetting to clutch it.
Most (all?) SxS are clutchless with the CVT transmissions.
Just point and go.
I have a polaris 570 SxS. It is only 50" wide, about the same as a standard size 4 wheeler.
Perfect for cruising around trails or free riding through the woods.
It even fits in the back of a full size pick em up truck.
Even has cupholders.
Never been stuck, but have rolled it a few times. Mainly because it has cup holders.
I rarely touch the bikes or 4 wheelers since getting the SxS.
All are fun, but the SxS just clicks all the boxes.

3rd_gear_Ted 11-12-2020 08:32 AM

If your older like me, a step thru, instead of a throw your leg over machine is nice.
Why I like my Bombardier.

BTW, you can lay a bike down, but an ATV will always high side, wear a good lid

svandamme 11-12-2020 08:38 AM

They are more dangerous then a dirt bike, because of their tendency to roll over you..
VP of former company is paralyzed from the neck down because of an ATV flipping and rolling over him

I would never even consider them
For me it's either buggy with seats and roll cage or a regular old dirt bike.


"ATVs are involved in fewer accidents but with deadlier outcomes than those of dirt bikes.
Victims of ATV incidents were found to be 50% more likely to succumb to their injuries
and 55% more likely to be taken to the intensive care unit in comparison to victims of dirt bike crashes.Mar 31, 2020"

vash 11-12-2020 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11100596)
They are more dangerous then a dirt bike, because of their tendency to roll over you..
VP of former company is paralyzed from the neck down because of an ATV flipping and rolling over him

I would never even consider them
For me it's either buggy with seats and roll cage or a regular old dirt bike.


"ATVs are involved in fewer accidents but with deadlier outcomes than those of dirt bikes.
Victims of ATV incidents were found to be 50% more likely to succumb to their injuries
and 55% more likely to be taken to the intensive care unit in comparison to victims of dirt bike crashes.Mar 31, 2020"

you talking about 3-wheelers here? yea, dangerous. the four wheeled ones are safer.

what about t side by side buggies. you wear your seat belt, use a device to keep your arms in..it is all very safe.

my advice. buy a 4 seater. much much more room for stuff. my brother got a Polarios and that thing just chugs up any mountain. its slow and boring but the torque is amazing. i bet it could pull out a stuck vehicle.

svandamme 11-12-2020 09:00 AM

even the 4 wheelers.. they don't flip as easy as the 3 wheeler, but when they flip, they crush ya.
VP i mentioned was a 4 wheeler.

911boost 11-12-2020 09:04 AM

He said he doesn't have room for a side by side and the 4 seaters take up a ton of room. I have a buddy with a 4 seat Teryx and a $$$$ suspension kit on it and its fun. I like the side by sides but they still roll, just are safer.

I have a Polaris Razr XP1000 and like your brothers it is fairly unstoppable. I will be buying a full windshield and door tops for it this offseason. Just got back from freezing using it for elk hunting this week and it was miserable.

With that said all of my friends and their families had 4 wheelers for years and years and somehow we are all still alive. As with anything, ride like an idiot and bad things happen. Ride like a sane person and use your brain they can be safe.

That does not apply to 3 wheelers, the devil created those.

vash 11-12-2020 09:06 AM

got it.

my friends 80 year old grandma runs a 4x4 ATV on her farm. she hasnt hurt herself yet.

Rusty Heap 11-12-2020 09:29 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1605205747.jpg

Bill Douglas 11-12-2020 11:10 AM

Oh yes... the four wheelers flip alright!

20 years ago. It was like going through a bacon slicer, I still have the scars to prove it.

Hehe, great bike though. Yamaha.

rusnak 11-12-2020 12:08 PM

This thread made me look at ATV rollover accidents. Ouch. As kids we used to flip our ATC 3-wheelers and the 4-wheel Honda Odessey all the time. We used to ride on the farm all year and go to the Pismo sand dunes probably 6 times per year. With the 4-wheeler you knew to hold onto the steering wheel. Amazing to me now that no one ever got hurt. Either we were lucky or just good at riding back then.

A930Rocket 11-12-2020 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Heap (Post 11100665)

Nice! I don't have the coin for one of those or at least I don't want to spend it.

No three wheeler for me.

I checked the National Forest website and all the trails are closed due to wet conditions. They must be REALLY wet, because they are a mud bog in the heat of summer!

Besides the NF, we don't have a lot of nice options close by like some of you guys...mountains, sand dunes, etc. I'd like a place I can go for the day.

A930Rocket 11-12-2020 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 11100847)
This thread made me look at ATV rollover accidents. Ouch. As kids we used to flip our ATC 3-wheelers and the 4-wheel Honda Odessey all the time. We used to ride on the farm all year and go to the Pismo sand dunes probably 6 times per year. With the 4-wheeler you knew to hold onto the steering wheel. Amazing to me now that no one ever got hurt. Either we were lucky or just good at riding back then.

I think it's the lucky part. :(

It's like riding our bike with no helmet, riding in the car with no seat belts or riding on the package tray, etc.

I always ride with full gear. Saved my head one day when I hit a tree years ago in the NF, but did it hurt!

Edit: The Honda Recon 250 has already sold. Snooze, you lose!

porsche930dude 11-12-2020 12:35 PM

I would never get anything polaris or can-am from the ones iv worked on. Just a pain the arse to work on. Infact anything that you need to remove 50 pieces of plastic just to see anything id run away from. Go for a light enough machine that you can push or lift if it gets stuck or incapacitated and its not going to crush you if it rolls over. Anything made in the last ten years will have a higher price tag for parts. I also dont care for machines that use a cvt which are the automatics you mentioned. But it doesnt really matter anything is good as long as it works and gets you out riding.

911boost 11-12-2020 12:43 PM

My 96 Polaris was easy to work on and the basic machine didn’t change for years and years so parts availability when I needed them was a snap.

A 250 is going to be way too small for you.

rusnak 11-12-2020 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11100865)
I think it's the lucky part. :(

It's like riding our bike with no helmet, riding in the car with no seat belts or riding on the package tray, etc.

I always ride with full gear. Saved my head one day when I hit a tree years ago in the NF, but did it hurt!

Edit: The Honda Recon 250 has already sold. Snooze, you lose!

^ 100% goes without saying: Wear full protective gear always. Never rode without a helmet, boots, gloves, and kidney belt, which protects the lower back.

cabmandone 11-12-2020 01:58 PM

Honda Rincon or Honda 450 Foreman. Great machines.

I have an old Yamaha Timberwolf 250 2wd that my friend and I use occasionally. My friend is 6'3 275. He looks a bit cramped on it but he can ride it. I guess it depends on how much ya wanna ride.

Fast Freddy 944 11-12-2020 03:12 PM

I have ridden a few, my favorite night mare atv is the 2 fiddy r honda 3 wheeler. It was one evil motor cycle....http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1605226352.jpg

porsche930dude 11-12-2020 04:14 PM

Iv got a atc110 and a kawi klt250 iv ridden a 250sx it was pretty fun but high center of gravity. Iv also ridden a big red they have a real low seating position so they are more stable I guess thats why they were more popular. My klt is quite stable aswell but the 110 is very unstable. so it really depends on the model but i can see why they got a bad reputation. Love the klt its a great machine for work or play. my 72 year old dad rides it all the timehttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1605229985.jpg

wdfifteen 11-12-2020 04:20 PM

Had 250CC Yamaha that we wanted to use as a farm vehicle. It was a pain in the ass. After a year we sold it. But you probably have a different use in mind so .... never mind. :D

s_morrison57 11-12-2020 06:18 PM

I had a Honda Foreman 400, foot shift, not sure what year it would have been, it was for my use on a job I did in S. America. I put over 50K miles on that bike over 6 years all on jungle roads and trails. It was the perfect machine for the job but it removed recreational ATV use for me, forever.

Finn

gregpark 11-12-2020 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Freddy 944 (Post 11101118)
I have ridden a few, my favorite night mare atv is the 2 fiddy r honda 3 wheeler. It was one evil motor cycle....http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1605226352.jpg

Now this thing has trouble written all over it

unclebilly 11-12-2020 07:03 PM

We have an older Honda trx350fm. It is a great workhorse on our farm. These are called a Rancher in the states.

It has plenty of power for farm use and is comfortable to ride.

If you get a Honda, get a standard. The automatics were trouble.

Fast Freddy 944 11-13-2020 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregpark (Post 11101344)
Now this thing has trouble written all over it

Yeup, 250 cc-2 stroke race bike. Power out put was fun, it hit hard, but if you dont control it or steer it correctly, it will yank you off or you go over the bars and run you over. I had it down for a short time, then I tried to crank it round a turn, it caught my boot and sucked me under and ran over me. LOL! I rode it back to the gent I borrowed it from and said "Thanks but no thanks" LOL! Power full engine. Here is my old school bike that has 2 wheels that I ride once in a while..;)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1605275411.jpg

juanbenae 11-13-2020 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11100455)

Edit: there seems to be a lot of scams for nice looking ATV's for dirt cheap. Scammers must have moved on from cars to ATV's?


https://charleston.craigslist.org/snw/d/walterboro-2008-yamaha-grizzly-350/7217985050.html

i was shopping for a quad a little over a year ago and the amount of scam adds on CL amazed me. they pretty much out numbered the legit adds 2-1. very frustrating. i started reporting them to CL to get them removed and CL to their credit did remove the ones i reported agreeing they were scams.

i got a yamaha 660 grizzly cause i use it to move snow around the property with a blade i got so the big bore was needed. also has a rear locking diff that works well for the snow work.

mine is carbureted and if i had it to do over id gotten a newer model that was FI. very cold blooded and needs warm up time even during the summer before it runs decent.

A930Rocket 11-13-2020 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 11101932)
i was shopping for a quad a little over a year ago and the amount of scam adds on CL amazed me. they pretty much out numbered the legit adds 2-1. very frustrating. i started reporting them to CL to get them removed and CL to their credit did remove the ones i reported agreeing they were scams.

I probably flagged 25 last night while looking. Everything was odd numbers between $504 and $1,004 etc. The city/location were broken up with different symbols.

Finally got tired of reporting them...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1605298262.jpg

asphaltgambler 11-13-2020 01:03 PM

How about a Honda Odyssey with a big bore kit?


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