Curious...

If you have a ‘GO Bag’, where do you plan to ‘GO’?

If SHTF, I won’t be too welcoming to most city folk who show up at my 300 acres with their ‘GO Bags’... most other rural people won’t be welcoming either. Very few rural people are not armed, and are not prepared.

We have 300 acres, 39 head of cattle, a good sized garden, well water, and are fairly well equipped. That being said, there are a few friends and family members we would help out in a SHTF scenario but not too many.

Excellent point!

And flour... lots and lots of flour.. and packets of yeast.

Someone touched on comm device. Not sure in a really bad situation that a solar phone charger is gonna cut it. I'd have a powerful handheld cb.

Thinking back to when a large tornado hit the area, cell signal was spotty at best. Same after a derecho came through.

It sure does not hurt anything to be ready, BUT...

I just don't see a likely future where some apocalypse make survival a challenge. Zombies are just make believe, like unicorns and bigfoot. We might have small earthquake, but not like a California level massive quake that collapses bridges and buildings. You and I are absolutely safe from a Hurricane or a Tsunami. We might have a grass fire but a forest fire requires a forest and we have a lot of trees, but no forest.

The only threat I can even imagine is some civil riot, and in Oklahoma the police do indeed keep the peace. Several people are awaiting trial on domestic terrorism charges after a small riot attempted a Portland style riot. It was stopped.

A meteor strike is possible, but very unlikely.

The two F5 tornadoes that hit Moore, OK cause localized mega damage, but just 6 blocks from the path was 100% civilization. Electricity and water and food and shelter.

You might want to check out the Survival blog.com.

Earthquake bag. Stocked with basic supplies and extra car keys in case I'm literally naked and my house is consumed by fire or flattened by seismic event. Plenty of camp gear easily accessible if I have to live in the back yard for a month or two.

I do wonder what an EMP disaster (natural or manmade) would look like, but frankly, that's going to be akin to nuclear holocaust, so a few extra groceries and some five gallon totes of water is going to be like spitting on a forest fire. I can make a guess on how well and how long some of us manage ourselves if there is no electricity, no transportation.

I may be buying one of these, it’s exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!

Living in KS I feel there are two possible scenarios, either some extended period of mass civil unrest that exceeds what our police can reasonably control or a natural disaster. While much like Glen said we also have police that actually enforce the law and don’t permit Portland style nightly riots, in the event of large and extended civil unrest I can easily see a scenario where they are simply overwhelmed. Plus it’s never a good idea to expect that the police and government will take care of you, I like the ability to take care of myself and my family. Then there’s the obvious natural disaster scenario. Tornados happen but like Glen said they are a localized event, even if you lose your home you can drive a few miles and find friends, family, hotels, food, etc untouched. We have occasional ice storms but rarely lose power for more than a few hours. Finally we do have the recent earthquake risk, albeit a little one.

So for any of those there’s the decision to either get out of town or stay put until the dust settles. I’m lucky to have in-laws less than two hours away who have a large stockpile of food, garden, etc on 40 acres. They are adjacent to a small town that can and will take care of itself if necessary. So if anything crazy happens, that’s the go scenario.

I do wonder what an EMP disaster would look like. Herr_oberst

One Second After by Dr William R Fortschen is a realistic account of what an EMP attack would look like. . Bottom line is that 90% wouldn't make it.

If you are sheltering in place for a SHTF event then besides non perishable food staples, medications, weapons and items for bartering, go watch an episode of Little House on the Prairie. Think of stuff you need for a non powered life like candles, tools to repair things, supplies like wood, shingles, plastic tarps. Also, you will need a water source beyond a few days. There are survival filters (even filter straws).

In 2011 when the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant in Japan had the melt down I was ready to “Go.”

My worries were based on a radiation cloud floating over the Pacific to California.

My Cayenne was fueled up, and I had five five gallon gas cans loaded in the rear basket carry all. There were clothes, a tent, personal items, toilet paper, tools in my top roof mount Thule. 3 weeks of MREs and 40 gallons of water were inside. My 1911 was on my side.

The plan was IF the radiation cloud was imminent and dangerous I would drive east. I figured I could go 800 miles without refueling. We have relatives and friends all the way to Virginia. With my military status I may even be able to take refuge in an active duty base.


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There are two types of disasters I plan for - those that require shelter in place, and those that require an evacuation. SIP has been covered in other threads, and with the pandemic I think we've tested parts of our plan... The evacuation, we haven't, but there are generally three categories - less than 5 minutes (house on fire), 30 minutes (nearby fire), and an hour or more. Both big cars generally have ready go-bags, but if we have thirty minutes or more we do plan to bring a few things, which are already listed. And where to go depends on what's going on. It's either up the mountains or down to the coast, or North or South. But not having a backup place, it'll probably be an evac center or public land...

[QUOTE=GH85Carrera;11173774]It sure does not hurt anything to be ready, BUT...

I just don't see a likely future where some apocalypse make survival a challenge. Zombies are just make believe, like unicorns and bigfoot. We might have small earthquake, but not like a California level massive quake that collapses bridges and buildings. You and I are absolutely safe from a Hurricane or a Tsunami. We might have a grass fire but a forest fire requires a forest and we have a lot of trees, but no forest.

The only threat I can even imagine is some civil riot, and in Oklahoma the police do indeed keep the peace. Several people are awaiting trial on domestic terrorism charges after a small riot attempted a Portland style riot. It was stopped.

A meteor strike is possible, but very unlikely.

The two F5 tornadoes that hit Moore, OK cause localized mega damage, but just 6 blocks from the path was 100% civilization. Electricity and water and food and shelter.[/QUOTE




Your only going to have your words to eat when the good folks in the yellow helping hands shirts show up to bail you out... seriously I hope your prepared though ...

Damn good advice...

Seriously Funny, but really you have little in common with them aside from your pulse... too bad they care more about you than the converse, any way, they won’t be around when it really hits the fan...

As to the OP

What I do... I’m gardening.... a lot. I have a 20x30 green house and am learning how to garden year round.. Here that means in 3-6 feet of snow...

Go bags with at least 72 hours food... Unless your 50lbs or more overweight like me, I only need water and electrolyte

Take a survival course

Take a permaculture course

Get 2-3 year supply of food staples and seeds

Get farming supplies
Fert
Irrigation stuff
Actual greenhouse poly (super tough wears like iron)
Lots of compost
I like greenhouse supply and farm tech as suppliers

I use several sources for bulk food.... Here are 2...
Rainy day foods... In montpellier ID....They ship
https://rainydayfoods.com/

LDS food storage store... Open to non members. Look it up

Get a tent suitable for long term camping, preferably with a roof jack and a tent stove...

If possible get a small travel trailer

I have a freeze dryer, I use my freezer storage daily what doesn't get used after 3 months gets freeze dried.

All of this stuff is easy(maybe not the gardening there is a learning curve there, you might want to get ahead of it) and practical.
We drive less as there are fewer supply trips.
We have better nutrient density in our food.
We eat fewer processed foods
We have peace of mind.

Guys Europe is experiencing huge farm closures and crop failures are becoming the norm, experts are predicting world wide failures in the near future... This is real its not a zombie or meteor fairy tale, toilet paper will be the least of your worries if you don't have the grub to produce the poop...

Lastly if your one of the pious atheists (you know who you are) out there that thinks people of faith are idiots, do a better job of being tolerant....

You never know who's charity you'll be in the position to need.

Seriously though, good luck.

The main concern with storing beer is that it goes stale real quick, at least the canned blond beers.

So key is rotating it heavily.

Trust me, I'm a Belgian, If there's anything I know, it's Beer, and chocolate
and fries.

Learn to make it... I am, and I don't drink it... I use it in my bbq and marinades.

you ain't got time to brew beer when SHTF !!
To busy blasting zombies and looters and anybody who looks funny at you.


Anybody who knows anything knows that !

You just killed me.. I'm dying :D

As for us... We live in a pretty decent area so sheltering in place is the likeliest scenario.
If you do not live in an area where your fairly certain you can shelter in place then build your storage and prep to be mobile...

I'll have your brews ready.... Bring gold, silver and porsche and lycoming parts, my black market awaits...