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1990C4S 01-11-2021 11:55 AM

Great White North: really limited supply by comparison, then higher prices, then add on delivery...versus my time on weekends and the satisfaction of building something.

This is something I would brought over the border in pre-COVID times, not an option for the foreseeable future.

gregpark 01-11-2021 11:58 AM

Pocket doors are sliders that require rebuilding the wall. I'm not a fan. Expensive plus any problem with the hanging track and the opening trim has to come off to remove the door. And more than once my guys have pinned a pocket door open by not thinking when shooting up base board. Here's another closet door treatment I did in my house. Trimless. I like the clean look. Non pre hung, I just framed very carefully and rocked with round corners. I used high quality plywood instead of sheet rock for the wall thickness so I could chisel out and recess the hinges
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1610397827.jpg
Conventional door and window trim bores me. I've trimmed out the interior of my house with header caps, fluted, rosettes, whatever. Anything to break from the norm... but I have an old Victorian and can get away with wierdness.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1610398172.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1610398172.jpg

masraum 01-11-2021 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11177297)
Lol, no, I'm confusing everyone.

I think....

What, a 192" opening with eight 24" doors? :D

1990C4S 01-11-2021 12:02 PM

Nice work. I will post pictures if I am able to hide all the flaws.

masraum 01-11-2021 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11177123)
No sliding, no pocket for me. Anyway, the right side of my closet is up against a wall...

Got it. I'm not trying to convince you, but the other day I saw something (not my style) but pretty cool. It was a barn door style sliding door, but on an outside corner of a room, and the door was like a roll top desk and actually slide around the corner (rounded) from the opening that it covered.

masraum 01-11-2021 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gregpark (Post 11177333)
Pocket doors are sliders that require rebuilding the wall. I'm not a fan. Expensive plus any problem with the hanging track and the opening trim has to come off to remove the door. And more than once my guys have pinned a pocket door open by not thinking when shooting up base board.

Ouch!
Quote:

Here's another closet door treatment I did in my house. Trimless. I like the clean look. Non pre hung, I just framed very carefully and rocked with round corners. I used high quality plywood instead of sheet rock for the wall thickness so I could chisel out and recess the hinges
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1610397827.jpg
That's very, VERY cool. I really like the clean look.
Quote:

Conventional door and window trim bores me. I've trimmed out the interior of my house with header caps, fluted, rosettes, whatever. Anything to break from the norm... but I have an old Victorian and can get away with wierdness.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1610398172.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1610398172.jpg
Also very nice, I like the fluted and also the rosettes and stuff with more character. Our new home was built in 1924, but is an old farm house. It's got tall baseboard (10", IIRC), shiplap walls and some colonnades, but I think the house is too simple/rustic for that look around the doors and windows or it's what I'd be doing.

look 171 01-11-2021 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregpark (Post 11177333)
Pocket doors are sliders that require rebuilding the wall. I'm not a fan. Expensive plus any problem with the hanging track and the opening trim has to come off to remove the door. And more than once my guys have pinned a pocket door open by not thinking when shooting up base board. Here's another closet door treatment I did in my house. Trimless. I like the clean look. Non pre hung, I just framed very carefully and rocked with round corners. I used high quality plywood instead of sheet rock for the wall thickness so I could chisel out and recess the hinges
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1610397827.jpg
Conventional door and window trim bores me. I've trimmed out the interior of my house with header caps, fluted, rosettes, whatever. Anything to break from the norm... but I have an old Victorian and can get away with wierdness.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1610398172.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1610398172.jpg

or no trim

This is my own house

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1610399645.jpg

gregpark 01-11-2021 12:15 PM

^ Called a Tambour door. Love the look and function. I made one once with canvas and half rounds. Never again, painful. I'd order a pre made though. (I'm referring to the roll top desk door mentioned above)

look 171 01-11-2021 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11177326)
Great White North: really limited supply by comparison, then higher prices, then add on delivery...versus my time on weekends and the satisfaction of building something.

This is something I would brought over the border in pre-COVID times, not an option for the foreseeable future.

Oh, I see. What province?

building jams maybe the way to go during the colder months without too much going on.

If you are going to do that, build the center jamb with a 1.5-2" material. Make sure its super straight. This way, you have only three jamb legs. Talking about more work buy I like doing stuff like that.

1990C4S 01-11-2021 12:24 PM

I live near Toronto, I used to work in Michigan. I miss my weekly hardware and Amazon shopping there.

If I was being paid for this I would do it the quick way, but for myself, in winter, during lockdown, I can take the time to build everything. Until someone who shares the closet sees how much durst this will make.

look 171 01-11-2021 05:33 PM

My cousin's kid moved from Calgary to Belleville, Ontario for a job. I thought that was small, coming from LA. Now he's in a smaller town up in the middle / northern part of Manitoba. Talk about living in the sticks.

You will be fine building out the doors the way you described. Don't forget to bevel the edges 2.5 degrees to prevent binding.

1990C4S 04-29-2021 06:01 AM

I bought a 4x8 sheet of 3/4 inch plywood, trimmed it down to 45" wide, and glued the 3" strip on the front side, so the center doors are hanging off 1-1/2" wide plywood.

Doors are crazy expensive right now, I just added biscuits to the bifold doors and glued them to make 24" doors.

Thanks for the suggestions posted earlier. Shoutout to 'look' especially.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1619704849.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1619704875.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1619704914.jpg

masraum 04-29-2021 06:18 AM

Very nicely done.

1990C4S 04-29-2021 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11314528)
Very nicely done.

Thank you. A bit of carpentry, a bit of Ikea, a bit of recycling...I would prefer some newer Shaker doors, but they are super-expensive right now, and I don't want to hang four more doors. I must have made fifty trips up and down the stairs fitting, painting, and effing about.

Now I can do the other three closets my wife uses...:rolleyes:

MBAtarga 04-29-2021 10:04 AM

You've got the Sienfeld poofy shirt!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1619719382.jpg

look 171 04-29-2021 10:11 AM

Nice closet, but where's your siht?:D

Tim Hancock 04-29-2021 10:32 AM

Gregpark,

Those are awesome looking one-off doors! Very creative and very nice execution!!!

1990C4S 04-29-2021 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11314813)
Nice closet, but where's your siht?:D

That is 10% of someone else's siht. It used to be 5%...


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