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wdfifteen 03-07-2021 05:14 PM

Are password managers really safe?
 
I’m skeptical. Should I really put my whole financial life in the hands of Lastpass or one of the others? What if they get hacked? I’d like easier on-line security, but I don’t like the idea of handing the keys over to someone else.

Esel Mann 03-07-2021 06:00 PM

look at keepass. program runs local, but the file'o passwords, you can keep on for example a usb stick. if super paranoid, you can encrypt the usb stick ala veracrypt et al. have two sticks to prevent possble loss or failure. walla.

sc_rufctr 03-07-2021 06:15 PM

Esel Mann is on point. I wouldn't store my passwords "online".
I store mine in an app that runs locally. (I only use LINUX Mint at home)

But I've always wondered: What happens to your password when you use it to get into your account on a web page?
- And how are "they" storing your password and details?

As it turns out I was right to be paranoid. Massive data hacks are very common.

MBAtarga 03-07-2021 06:30 PM

I use and recommend Dashlane (for iOS)

Arizona_928 03-07-2021 06:38 PM

You mean that post it note with all my passwords is not a good idea?

sc_rufctr 03-07-2021 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 11251965)
You mean that post it note with all my passwords is not a good idea?

That's probably better than what a lot of online vendors are using to secure their data. lol ;)

stealthn 03-07-2021 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esel Mann (Post 11251930)
look at keepass. program runs local, but the file'o passwords, you can keep on for example a usb stick. if super paranoid, you can encrypt the usb stick ala veracrypt et al. have two sticks to prevent possble loss or failure. walla.

This...

MMiller 03-07-2021 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esel Mann (Post 11251930)
look at keepass. program runs local, but the file'o passwords, you can keep on for example a usb stick. if super paranoid, you can encrypt the usb stick ala veracrypt et al. have two sticks to prevent possble loss or failure. walla.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 11251976)
This...

Can you dumb this down for us dummies..?
I assume that's what Mr Mann did but would love further clarity if possible..

stomachmonkey 03-07-2021 07:22 PM

I moved from Lastpass to Bitwarden.

You can self host.

if you are not using 2F everywhere you can then you are just asking for trouble whether you use a password manager or not

Bill Douglas 03-07-2021 07:23 PM

I write the password on the underside of my desk.

stealthn 03-07-2021 07:42 PM

Password managers that save a local file are password protected and allow you to store usernames, passwords and URL in a local file. The nice thing is you can cut and paste the username and passwords into websites, etc. So you never have to see the password.
They can also generate passwords for you.

I like Keepass but there a several others that are free and local.

sc_rufctr 03-07-2021 11:52 PM

Years ago I used an Excel spreadsheet with "password to open" set to store passwords etc.

Never had an issue.

KFC911 03-08-2021 02:37 AM

I have a "system" and just memorize them. Though my memory is "sharp", it's really not that difficult imo. Though it's also imbedded in other characters in the PW, if you don't know the serial # from my bycycle I had over 50 years ago .... good luck ;).

That's just one example fwiw.... make a longish sentence that meets all the "PW criteria", and is easy to remember if that helps.

I used dynamic PWs back in my latter corporate daze (FOB changed it every minute), for system access, so I'm not lax about security.... I've never written one down, nor stored them .... anywhere.

I have a Reynolds Wrap cap too :D

Seahawk 03-08-2021 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11251994)
I moved from Lastpass to Bitwarden.

You can self host.

if you are not using 2F everywhere you can then you are just asking for trouble whether you use a password manager or not

I'll move as well.

And, I know this means I already have issues, but what is 2F?

TIA.

berettafan 03-08-2021 03:47 AM

In a word, no.

Seems to me like asking the used car salesman what the car on his lot is really worth.

dad911 03-08-2021 03:54 AM

Doesn't everyone use their pet's name + 123? That's why you never answer facebook polls/questions. They are all geared to pry data.

I got an email from Amazon over the weekend, they stopped a login from IP in Taiwan on a rarely used account of mine. Said they had the password. I suspect it was a breach from a different account.

wdfifteen 03-08-2021 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11252146)
I'll move as well.

And, I know this means I already have issues, but what is 2F?

TIA.

I’m guessing it’s when you enter a password and they send you a text with a one-time PIN. .

GH85Carrera 03-08-2021 05:00 AM

Whatever password manager you use, do your survivors a favor, write down what it is, and how to get into it, and put that in a safe, or big box of financials documents.

My nephew recently died unexpectedly at 34 years old. He has a full business, and the many accounts of a web based guru. His parents still can't get into his phone or many of the accounts. His bitcoins may be lost forever.

KFC911 03-08-2021 05:27 AM

^^^^ Good advice Glen. I haven't finished doing this, among some other things. All the pertinent info, docs, etc. will be in my safe .... that no one knows the combination (right now). Worst case .... a locksmith would be called... and "they" know that's the current plan. I will fix that too.

Ducks .... still not in a row ... not yet :D.

KFC911 03-08-2021 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 11252159)
Doesn't everyone use their pet's name + 123? ...

Worked great until I named my dawg Password :D


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