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1990C4S 03-09-2021 10:47 AM

Building Permit Dilema
 
I have an existing 12' x 16' deck, 49" above grade. We want to cover it, full shingled roof, open sides, just your typical covered eating area.

By code I will need a variance (and my neighbours approval) to get my permit. If my deck was 1" or 2" lower I would be 'conforming' (48" high is the limit), I could just drop off my plans and wait two weeks, all done...

So I have a couple of choices:

1) Regrade the side yard (I have an 8' setback from the neighbors fence) and apply stating the deck is less than 48" above the ground. I think I could build this area up by 2" with soil/compost.

2) Ask my neighbor before I apply. This is the route I would take with a normal neighbor, but this guy complained that we use a clothesline (even though it's 100% legal/conforming). I do not want to have him say 'I don't like it', and then I'm stuck because I was polite enough to ask.

3) Drop my deck one step down. This is workable, but it makes me step down from my french doors, and it makes this section of the deck one step lower then remainder. To me it's a trip hazard.

I'm leaning towards 1). Do some landscaping before the inspector shows up (if he ever does).

Will this 'fool' the inspector if he snoops around?

Bill Douglas 03-09-2021 10:55 AM

I had this at one time and just raised the ground level.

Nothing ever came of it and I've no idea where the ground level is at now. the problem just went away - often a good way to deal with things.

Noah930 03-09-2021 10:56 AM

Raise the ground.

masraum 03-09-2021 10:58 AM

I vote option 1.

Eff being polite to stupid obnoxious people.

KFC911 03-09-2021 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 11254014)
Raise the ground.

Yep.... if it ever gets to that point. I'm thinking it doesn't, but that's the solution.

And put up lots of clothes lines :D

1990C4S 03-09-2021 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 11254017)
And put up lots of clothes lines :D

The thing is I only use it once a month. :confused:

And he rarely uses his back yard.

1990C4S 03-09-2021 11:24 AM

I'm ordering soil. Thank you everyone.

look 171 03-09-2021 11:40 AM

Yep, get soil, wait a couple weeks after inspection then remove to do it the way you want. Its only a couple inches, who's going to know or measure it?

Edited: Wife tells me that all the time.:D:mad::eek:

wilnj 03-09-2021 11:44 AM

Not sure if anyone would go this length to challenge you but what was the proposed height of the deck when it was built?

1990C4S 03-09-2021 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilnj (Post 11254060)
Not sure if anyone would go this length to challenge you but what was the proposed height of the deck when it was built?

The original deck was probably conforming because it was uncovered, which has fewer restrictions. Once you put a roof on there a lot more rules.

But the original deck was built without a permit, so I can't be sure.

Rusty Heap 03-09-2021 12:10 PM

screw the permit, it's just a small add-on roof line. Put in a raised garden bed under the deck rail and fill with bark/plants.

Nobody neighbor or inspector is going to care if you're 2" over height.

dad911 03-09-2021 01:41 PM

Add the dirt.

Do you have impervious restrictions where you are? Here a deck is not considered impervious, but a roof is. Only a certain percentage of the lot can be impervious.

stomachmonkey 03-09-2021 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty Heap (Post 11254093)

Nobody neighbor or inspector is going to care if you're 2" over height.

Lol

BTDT not worth the risk which depending on where you live could be high too almost certain.

varmint 03-09-2021 02:11 PM

are you planning on selling this house anytime in the next twenty years?

if not, go ahead. f the inspectors.

Racerbvd 03-09-2021 03:35 PM

If the inspectors are like they are here, they will tell you one thing, then after you followed their guidelines, will come back and tell you what you did isn't the right way

stomachmonkey 03-09-2021 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 11254283)
If the inspectors are like they are here, they will tell you one thing, then after you followed their guidelines, will come back and tell you what you did isn't the right way

It’s not like that will result in you having to tear up 100 ft of brand new blacktop driveway and replace it with concrete. :rolleyes:

Ask me how I know.

Zeke 03-09-2021 04:04 PM

Just be sure that when you add the soil you still have 6" of cement pier above grade. If your support posts are buried, I have no advice.

Racerbvd 03-09-2021 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11254306)
It’s not like that will result in you having to tear up 100 ft of brand new blacktop driveway and replace it with concrete. :rolleyes:

Ask me how I know.

We had the same inspector.

peppy 03-09-2021 04:10 PM

I know its not relevant, but why do we regulate someone's property!

Racerbvd 03-09-2021 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by peppy (Post 11254321)
I now its not relevant, but why do we regulate someone's property!

Control and money grab...


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