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wdfifteen 03-19-2021 11:31 AM

Defective product
 
It's defective and I'm screwed. I ordered a talking volt/ohm meter in November. It arrived from China in early January. The box got lost among some other stuff and I didn't find it until a couple of days ago. I've had it too long to send it back. First, it's not what I ordered. It's not a talking meter. Too late to send it back, so I went to put batteries in it and use it anyway when I noticed something missing.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1616182180.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1616182180.jpg

I might be able to fix it, but I've already got a pile of stuff to fix. I'll probably keep the leads (they fit my other meter) and toss this one out.

Eric Hahl 03-19-2021 11:33 AM

Oh my!

deanp 03-19-2021 11:40 AM

Hard to tell from the photo, but is that battery compartment sized right for a 9V? I'm assuming you're referencing what appears to be missing terminal tabs? Or is it the battery compartment door that's missing?

pwd72s 03-19-2021 11:45 AM

Ever heard of Fluke?

wdfifteen 03-19-2021 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deanp (Post 11266099)
I'm assuming you're referencing what appears to be missing terminal tabs?

Yes. It takes 2 AA batteries. You can see the +- indicators at the top. The terminal at the bottom that would connect the batteries is completely gone.

Scott Douglas 03-19-2021 12:08 PM

Aluminum foil comes to mind....might work.

GH85Carrera 03-19-2021 12:12 PM

But, I bet it was cheap! Worth even less.

stevej37 03-19-2021 12:18 PM

most likely 'break time' when that happened.

Esel Mann 03-19-2021 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11266134)
Yes. It takes 2 AA batteries. You can see the +- indicators at the top. The terminal at the bottom that would connect the batteries is completely gone.

To make that DMM talking, have your wife hold it and read out loud the display measurement(s).:D

Correct, with AA batts, the shunt piece (which is missing) is needed. Interesting the DMM uses two AA batts, I'm used to them using single 9v batts.

One possible idea is to find something cheap at harbor freight that uses 2 AA's side-by-side. That piece should be in said item.

I'm at home, but if I have time this weekend, I'll swing by my office. I'm not positive, but I recall I have some AA battery boxes kicking around. That piece should be in them. If I have it, it's yours.

rwest 03-19-2021 12:46 PM

Are you sure it doesn’t take a 9V battery? Maybe see if one fits?

fastfredracing 03-19-2021 01:01 PM

Sure looks like it is for a 9 v to me . I believe my fluke, and me el cheapos take 9v. Maybe its not the multimeter that is defective product...
Have a good weekend WD !

masraum 03-19-2021 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11266134)
Yes. It takes 2 AA batteries. You can see the +- indicators at the top. The terminal at the bottom that would connect the batteries is completely gone.

Not that I don't believe you, but you do realize that a 9V battery would have 2 terminals at the top and one would be + and the other would be -?

http://www.4physics.com/phy_demo/bat...BatteryTop.jpg

Arizona_928 03-19-2021 01:08 PM

Electrons are negative

908/930 03-19-2021 01:20 PM

I just looked up the specs it takes a 9V

stevej37 03-19-2021 01:25 PM

That is a different type of connection for a 9volt battery. Normally they have the push-on clip.

Esel Mann 03-19-2021 01:37 PM

Not necessarily true. The push on 'clip' with a wire pigtail is what is referred to as a battery strap.
A common 9v batt connection, yes. Exclusive, no.
What you see there are leaf contacts. They can be purposed for a variety of batt sources of which 9v is but one.

masraum 03-19-2021 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11266239)
That is a different type of connection for a 9volt battery. Normally they have the push-on clip.

Yep. It's probably just a cheaper connection. And it enables the user to accidentally put the battery in backwards which is probably the reason for the usual push on clip.

stevej37 03-19-2021 01:40 PM

Yeah...I think most smoke detectors come with that type connection....but they do not get used like a multi-meter would.

Edit: Actually they even have the clip on attachment...just built in.

Esel Mann 03-19-2021 01:54 PM

You'd be surprised even with the battery strap, aka clip, how many attempt to connect a 9v backwards. Because the 9v battery could be put in backwards and the unit powered on, one would hope that they put a simple diode inline on the circuit board to protect from a reversed battery.

Looking at the battery compartment at the lower end there is provision for the shunt connection for a 2 AA arrangement. So it is entirely possible the battery compartment supports a couple of different applications. Some use 2 AA's, others 9v batt types. Using the leaf contacts means less different parts to manage and reduces costs by using such across multiple product lines.

stevej37 03-19-2021 01:56 PM

^^^ ok..but two AA's doesn't equal a 9volt.

wdfifteen 03-19-2021 02:13 PM

I tried a 9 volt. It actually works!!
OK, I'm an idiot.
It works, but it's not looking real promising. It hunts for a steady resistance before announcing what it is, which takes forever if it ever does settle down and find one. I need it for continuity more than actual resistance and it just hunts for the exact resistance. I don't really need to know the difference between .01 and .02 ohms. I'll try it on a voltage tomorrow. It does have a 20 volt scale which might work on a 6 volt system. That would be useful.

stevej37 03-19-2021 02:16 PM

You'll get used to that hunting. It's just not settled down. They almost all do that.

masraum 03-19-2021 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11266301)
II need it for continuity more than actual resistance

If you're mostly just looking for an audible indication of continuity, then wouldn't that be the best setting? If you've got continuity, then it beeps. If you don't have continuity, then no sound. Every multimeter that I've ever had included that feature. Then if you need actual resistance, then you go to one of the other settings.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1616196397.jpg

hcoles 03-19-2021 04:08 PM

That's a lot of functionality for $28.

Nostril Cheese 03-19-2021 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 908/930 (Post 11266229)
I just looked up the specs it takes a 9V

Can confirm. Every cheap multimeter Ive seen uses a 9V.

wdfifteen 03-19-2021 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11266386)
If you're mostly just looking for an audible indication of continuity, then wouldn't that be the best setting? If you've got continuity, then it beeps. If you don't have continuity, then no sound. Every multimeter that I've ever had included that feature. Then if you need actual resistance, then you go to one of the other settings.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1616196397.jpg

Could be. It is silent until shorted, then emits a screeching sound. It could be just what I need.

You guys rock. The meter came without a manual or any instructions. But PPOT is better than an instruction manual!

masraum 03-19-2021 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11266498)
Could be. It is silent until shorted, then emits a screeching sound. It could be just what I need.

Yep, that's what that setting is for, audible continuity testing.

wdfifteen 03-19-2021 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11266504)
Yep, that's what that setting is for, audible continuity testing.

The diode symbol threw me. I'm not an electronics guy.

abisel 03-19-2021 05:43 PM

I think the voice button is second from left

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NKTECH-NK-51F-Voice-Value-True-RMS-Portable-Digital-Multimeter-Multi-Test-Tooler-/142543186675

And it takes a 9v/6F22 battery.

red-beard 03-19-2021 06:03 PM

I would love a multimeter I can yell at


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