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flatbutt 04-22-2021 06:53 AM

WTF? Seriously WTF?
 
IDK what to say other than WTF.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/father-transfers-biracial-daughter-to-new-school-after-her-classmate-and-a-district-employee-cut-her-hair/ar-BB1fTOJ3?ocid=msedgntp

wdfifteen 04-22-2021 07:32 AM

I read that story this morning. Bi-racial's got nothing to do with it. You send your kid off to school and the teacher decides to cut her hair? My dad was a pretty mellow guy, but he would have raised holy hell if if a teacher cut my sister's hair without his or mom's permission.

Nostril Cheese 04-22-2021 07:57 AM

Looking for a payday....

GH85Carrera 04-22-2021 08:01 AM

I can't fathom what would bring any teacher to cut the hair on a child of a student. A bully kid might cut the hair, but that should be handled by the school and the parents.

That teacher needs to be questioned, and unless there was some astonishing reason to cut her hair, fired. And then have her hair shaved off as well.

The good news is it just hair, and it will grow back. That teacher should become a ex-teacher.

2.7RS 04-22-2021 08:49 AM

Pretty sure that is assault and battery in many states if not all

3rd_gear_Ted 04-22-2021 09:01 AM

A Nun tried to beat my bare arse as a kid, my Dad told her, "I'm the only one who is going to beat his ass, don't ever try it again, beat his knuckles all you want , don' touch his arse"

john70t 04-22-2021 09:38 AM

W, T, and F are the newest roman numerals added to be able to count the incidents these days.

Crowbob 04-22-2021 09:39 AM

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2021/04/20/teacher-cuts-biracial-girl-hair-dad-angry-mount-pleasant/7298328002/

gordner 04-22-2021 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11305845)
I read that story this morning. Bi-racial's got nothing to do with it. You send your kid off to school and the teacher decides to cut her hair? My dad was a pretty mellow guy, but he would have raised holy hell if if a teacher cut my sister's hair without his or mom's permission.

My dad was mellow as well, until he was not. That teacher would have been sporting a new hairstyle by the end of the day if he were involved.

Absolutely nuts.

gordner 04-22-2021 09:42 AM

Having said that though, what idiot thinks this is about race, or that her race is worth mentioning over and over in the article? Disgusting.

varmint 04-22-2021 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3rd_gear_Ted (Post 11305978)
A Nun tried to beat my bare arse as a kid, my Dad told her, "I'm the only one who is going to beat his ass, don't ever try it again, beat his knuckles all you want , don' touch his arse"



think my parents sent the nuns a gift every time they smacked me.

Tobra 04-22-2021 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gordner (Post 11306044)
Having said that though, what idiot thinks this is about race, or that her race is worth mentioning over and over in the article? Disgusting.

Anyone in MSM, that is who.

Vipergrün 04-22-2021 09:58 AM

In a similar vein, a local gay couple was claiming harassment and hate because they were frequently ticketed and complained about for parking a large truck in the wrong spots. Still trying to understand the gay play. Break the rules and you pay.

thor66 04-22-2021 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gordner (Post 11306044)
Having said that though, what idiot thinks this is about race, or that her race is worth mentioning over and over in the article? Disgusting.

it's suspicious, because this often happened to black kids

Steve Carlton 04-22-2021 06:09 PM

Looks to me like kids were being kids and cutting her hair because it was outside the norm. Looks sort of like a blond afro.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1619143497.jpg

Seems possible the teacher didn't know the parents had it cut in an asymmetric style and was trying to even it out in a well meaning, but poor judgement kind of way. I'd be curious to hear the logic before jumping to conclusions. I wouldn't be surprised of the parents' outrage is becoming unnecessary trauma for the little girl. I'd be curious how she took it. Very possible she's better off out of that school.

aap1966 04-22-2021 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11306757)
Looks to me like kids were being kids and cutting her hair because it was outside the norm. Looks sort of like a blond afro.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1619143497.jpg

Seems possible the teacher didn't know the parents had it cut in an asymmetric style and was trying to even it out in a well meaning, but poor judgement kind of way. I'd be curious to hear the logic before jumping to conclusions. I wouldn't be surprised of the parents' outrage is becoming unnecessary trauma for the little girl. I'd be curious how she took it. Very possible she's better off out of that school.

Reasoned assessment.

Bill Douglas 04-22-2021 09:30 PM

Great hair on that kid - previous to the cut. Might have been a bit of jealousy.

Teahers... I remember as a little boy Mr Allwood, teacher at Solway Primary school, was always concerned we had not dried between our toes and would kneel in front of us naked little boys and check our toes.

rnln 04-23-2021 12:05 AM

Yeah, I want to hear the reason too.

onewhippedpuppy 04-23-2021 03:08 AM

Nothing to do with race, everything to do with school employees who should get fired. Except they are union and probably damn near impossible to fire. A good friend of mine is a principal, he said on average it takes three years to fire a bad teacher unless they do something outrageous that’s an explicit fireable offense.

Chocaholic 04-23-2021 03:56 AM

Relax fellas. It’s a click-bait piece from MSN that likely doesn’t include the entire story. As stated above, race is mentioned several times in a story unrelated to race. Welcome to the new America. You’ve taken the bait.

kach22i 04-23-2021 05:22 AM

Apparently there is a feeling of stonewalling that is not being conveyed by the opening article and the Detroit Free Press article.

The below link includes additional details and even names.

7-year-old girl traumatized after White school staff member cuts her hair
by Sarah Gray, Political Correspondent April 16, 2021
https://theblackwallsttimes.com/2021/04/16/7-year-old-girl-traumatized-after-white-school-staff-member-cuts-her-hair/
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Two days later, Jurnee walked in crying. Hoffmeyer, clearly shaken, discussed the look on his daughters face that day. “I don’t think there are words to express how I felt in that moment,” Hoffmeyer said. “I asked if the girl on the bus had cut her hair again, and she said, ‘no. My library teacher cut my hair.’ I couldn’t believe it. I jumped in the car to go to the school but realized it was spring break. I couldn’t get ahold of anyone, so I called the cops.” The library teacher, listed as a media specialist on the school’s website, is Kelly Mogg.................

Hoffmeyer continues to face stonewalling from the Mount Pleasant School District. He’s requested to see footage from the bus incident. He was told administrators had viewed it and there was really nothing for him to see. The “we know best” attitude towards this Black father mirrors the paternalistic White supremacy displayed by the staff who cut Jurnee’s hair.....................

Through the experience, the Hoffmeyer family hasn’t found any allies in the district. But once Jurnee’s story reached the National Parents Union, they leaned all the way in to help get #JusticeForJurnee. In a recent statement, NPU Director of Policy and Legislation said “No child should have to experience this type of humiliating ordeal because of their hair texture, style, or type! The adults entrusted with her learning crossed the line, didn’t protect her, and had no desire to be accountable for their actions.” NPU is currently seeking a civil rights attorney for the Hoffmeyer family. They have sent formal requests to the district for evidence from the incident.

In the meantime, Jurnee has switched schools and started going to counseling. “We’ve had to take her to the doctor because she hasn’t been eating. She’s having trouble sleeping now and always wants to be with us. All of this because her hair didn’t look how they thought it should, wasn’t done to their standards. If you look at pictures of her before this happened, you can just see her spark and her energy. Now it’s like it’s just gone.”
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Quote:

Originally Posted by thor66 (Post 11306710)
it's suspicious, because this often happened to black kids

Can you offer anything more on this, like an article or something?

EDIT:


I was able to find this article below.

Feb. 23, 2019
When hair breaks rules: Some black children are getting in trouble for natural hairstyles
In the past, "African-Americans often conformed through haircuts, wigs and relaxers," one lawyer said. "Now, more of us are choosing not to conform."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/when-hair-breaks-rules-some-black-children-are-getting-trouble-n973346
Quote:

A high school wrestler was forced to cut his hair or forfeit a wrestling match in New Jersey.

A 6-year-old boy in Florida was turned away from a private Christian academy on his first day of school because his hair extended below his ears.

And a New Orleans-area girl was sent home at the start of the school year from a Catholic school for wearing braids.

All three of the children are black. All wore natural, chemical-free hairstyles. All three incidents were caught on video, drawing widespread attention and condemnation.

These are just a few instances of what civil rights advocates say is a growing problem of discrimination against African-Americans — adults at work as well as children at school — due to their hair.

thor66 04-23-2021 01:14 PM

so it didn't happen eh, chocolate?

onewhippedpuppy 04-23-2021 02:33 PM

Not conforming to rules at a private school is way different than a teacher cutting the hair of a kid without parent permission. My kids go to a Catholic school that has guidelines that apply to everybody with regards to appearance including hair, he has white friends that have been sent home for a haircut because they don’t comply with their rules. Sorry but that’s equality, you can’t have rules that apply to some races but not others. Claiming an “ethnic” hair style is race baiting BS. So is a mullet an ethnic hair style for white guys?:D

fintstone 04-23-2021 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11306757)
Looks to me like kids were being kids and cutting her hair because it was outside the norm. Looks sort of like a blond afro.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1619143497.jpg

Seems possible the teacher didn't know the parents had it cut in an asymmetric style and was trying to even it out in a well meaning, but poor judgement kind of way. I'd be curious to hear the logic before jumping to conclusions. I wouldn't be surprised of the parents' outrage is becoming unnecessary trauma for the little girl. I'd be curious how she took it. Very possible she's better off out of that school.

That is my guess. Big mistake showing compassion or trying to help these days. The "asymmetric style " was probably assumed to be the work of the young girl herself or another child.

They would have done the same where/when I went to school...if they felt they could help a child with a botched hair cut from another kid.

fintstone 04-23-2021 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 11307990)
Not conforming to rules at a private school is way different than a teacher cutting the hair of a kid without parent permission. My kids go to a Catholic school that has guidelines that apply to everybody with regards to appearance including hair, he has white friends that have been sent home for a haircut because they don’t comply with their rules. Sorry but that’s equality, you can’t have rules that apply to some races but not others. Claiming an “ethnic” hair style is race baiting BS. So is a mullet an ethnic hair style for white guys?:D

^^^this^^^ Having rules/standards has become viewed as "racist" these days. Much like expecting identification to vote. Having lower expectation of those from certain races/groups is outright bigotry and benefits no one...especially members of that race/group.

rusnak 04-23-2021 08:52 PM

The daughter asked for her hair to be cut by a fellow student, and then later by a librarian?


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1619239994.png

drcoastline 04-24-2021 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by aap1966 (Post 11306867)
Reasoned assessment.

Well reasoned or not a teacher has no business touching that little girls hair. I can give a pass to the child who did it.

I would be interested in knowing the age of the teacher. Sadly in my experience young adults of today aren't up to standard, they are immature for their age.

Last week I was having a conversation with a friend of mine who is a local prosecutor. We were cleaning his wave runners in order to put them up for sale. Our kids are the same age 20. While cleaning the I asked doesn't your son want to ride these? He replied no this is real and would require going outside, everything he does is virtual.

Like me he and his son's mother are separated. His son was raised primarily by his mother a school teacher. He was the other weekend dad. I on the other hand fought the system and received fifty/fifty time, eventually obtaining custodial parent status.

While his son sat in front of a computer screen most days my daughter was with me cooking, riding horses, surfing, skiing, boating, travelling, etc. Doing real life things at least fifty percent of the time being challenged and taught to think and work through issues.

This brings me to an incident my friend had in court and explained during this conversation. It was a traffic accident. A young man around the same age as our kids was involved in a minor accident in which he was at fault. There was body cam of the kid freaking out and had to be restrained because his phone stopped working and he couldn't reach his brother to ask what to do? He was enraged that his phone had stopped working. This young man had no ability to think or work through a real life issue.

I think the teacher may fall into the same category as my friends son and the boy in the traffic stop. They lack critical thinking skills.

onewhippedpuppy 04-24-2021 05:13 AM

I don’t care about the circumstance, if you are a teacher or school employee and you cut the hair of a child without the explicit permission of the parent you are a moron and shouldn’t work there anymore.


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