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masraum 04-23-2021 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Flat Six (Post 11307619)
Vehicle telemetry, unless both driver and owner specifically and intentionally opt in.

CVTs. Blech.

Good call on the telemetry. I'm sure it'd end up being one of those things, the first time you start the car, you accept an EULA on the touch screen and that opts you in. So probably not worth it.

CVTs in theory should be able to give you the best performance AND the best economy in an auto trans if done well/correctly.

Our outback has a CVT. So far, it seems to work fine for an automatic. It's been interesting that there's been a couple of time where it's seemed like no shifting took place and the RPM stayed the same, but the speed kept increasing. I think that takes just the exact right circumstances to happen.

GH85Carrera 04-23-2021 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 11307302)
A rear facing camera mounted on the underside of the passenger mirror, that turns on whenever you flip on the right turn signal (Honda). This is a big distraction when a moving image pops up on your large center dash display, as you are trying to look through the corner.

My wife's Macan has a 360 degree view of the ground as you are approaching any type of obstacle at parking speeds, one or two MPH. It is really amazing to see the ground clearly in 360 degrees in all directions. It is great for parking or pulling into the garage. You can place the tires in a precise spot, easily. Mostly for avoiding cub rash on wheels or front valence damage in parking spots. Of course it has a full front and rear vision and sensors for obstacles.

When I take a passenger on a ride in my El Camino, 99% of them forget to lock the passenger door when they get out. Most everyone is used to automatic door locks. I had a friends 12 year old ride with me and he asked how do I lower the window with no window buttons. He had never seen a manual crank for windows, and thought it was cool.

porsche4life 04-23-2021 10:10 AM

Jesus some of you guys hate technology and progress. Maybe you should go back to driving cars from the late ‘80s. 🤣🤣🤣

john70t 04-23-2021 10:14 AM

Those white reverse lights which stay on a minute after the car is turned off.
I watched someone get out of left side of a car and walk into the store. But me I'm sitting there like an idiot waiting for the parking spot.

The Toyota auto dash lights never work right.
At dusk it takes 5min to turn on. And then 10min later it turns off again even though it's now dark. Random operation.
I have to twist the stalk switch to make the dash stay on.

A light switch is great but Toyota headlights automatically turn on with the engine key.
I don't like that either.
-When I'm warming up the car late at night, my lights blaze into the neighbor's window.
-And what if the battery was low?
-And what if a thief walks by while my car is advertising that it is both running and empty?

911 Rod 04-23-2021 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 11307645)
A light switch is great but Toyota headlights automatically turn on with the engine key.
I don't like that either.
-When I'm warming up the car late at night, my lights blaze into the neighbor's window.
-And what if the battery was low?
-And what if a thief walks by while my car is advertising that it is both running and empty?

I think they will stay off if you have the parking brake on?

svandamme 04-23-2021 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 11307639)
Jesus some of you guys hate technology and progress. Maybe you should go back to driving cars from the late ‘80s. ������


Most of the driver aids are meant to fix problems with drivers that aren't preoccupied with driving, eg not paying attention.
Brake assist
Lane Assist
speed assistetc etc
And the Nett result is that people pay even less attention to "driving"
Cars are becoming an appliance that get you from A to B.
It's all nice, but it's not driving. It's individual public transport.

Just look at those tards that drive a Tesla on Autopilot without somebody in the drivers seat. They figured out they can trick the Tesla in thinking there's somebody at the wheel by hanging some kind of weight on the steering wheel..


https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/auto/auto-news/can-tesla-cars-be-fooled-into-unmanned-driving-this-report-says-yes/how-they-tested/slideshow/82211586.cms?from=mdr

Geronimo '74 04-23-2021 12:27 PM

Lane assist when driving in (very) wet conditions.
They always seem to ‘recognise’ the trails from people driving in front of you as lines/lanes.
Pretty fuchin’ scary if the car thinks you’re accidentally going out of your lane and makes a ‘correction’
Not funny at highway speeds, not funny at all...
I’ll never forget to switch that sucker off again;

masraum 04-23-2021 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 11307833)
Lane assist when driving in (very) wet conditions.
They always seem to ‘recognise’ the trails from people driving in front of you as lines/lanes.
Pretty fuchin’ scary if the car thinks you’re accidentally going out of your lane and makes a ‘correction’
Not funny at highway speeds, not funny at all...
I’ll never forget to switch that sucker off again;

Yep, button on our steering wheel to turn it off in certain situations.

cabmandone 04-23-2021 12:42 PM

The friggin turn signal on, headlight off on the side the turn signal is on thing. Drives me nuts.

RANDY P 04-23-2021 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 11307833)
Lane assist when driving in (very) wet conditions.
They always seem to ‘recognise’ the trails from people driving in front of you as lines/lanes.
Pretty fuchin’ scary if the car thinks you’re accidentally going out of your lane and makes a ‘correction’
Not funny at highway speeds, not funny at all...
I’ll never forget to switch that sucker off again;

Ooh ooh ooh I forgot! Lane and distance driving aids and built-in backseat driver nag! Like having your Mom in the back seat all the time.

How could I forget? - really a rhetorical question,had ONE car with it- never again.

Also, I don't do big-brother insurance co. monitoring for discounts.

Rjp

RANDY P 04-23-2021 12:48 PM

Modern car: Tactile feedback and feel is now 'bad'. The smartphoning of the car.

rjp

thor66 04-23-2021 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 11307639)
Jesus some of you guys hate technology and progress. Maybe you should go back to driving cars from the late ‘80s. 🤣🤣🤣

late '60s:D

pmax 04-23-2021 01:17 PM

Loud exhausts with all the fake noises.

Fake engine sounds.

LEAKYSEALS951 04-23-2021 02:11 PM

The electronic parking brake vs. a hand lever emergency brake.

wtf does THAT accomplish. Progress my arse!!!!!! (Meet me in the school parking lot next snowstorm for a comparison test!) :)

onewhippedpuppy 04-23-2021 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11307402)
I agree with most of the items listed so far, but this is one that is so bad it ought to be against the law. Any control that forces you to take your eyes of the road in order to use it is a hazard, not a feature.

I have to agree with this one. Knobs or buttons can be located without looking once you are familiar with a car. But touchscreens? No way in hell. I agree that it’s a safety issue.

My remaining list would be auto start/stop, rain sensing wipers that always seem too aggressive, and all invasive driver nannies that will take over control. Some stuff listed I like, such as power rear hatch and proximity keys. I love not taking a key out of my pocket.

LEAKYSEALS951 04-23-2021 02:51 PM

I will add one comment about this stuff for mostly the sake of fun, but also, in a slightly sobering statement of TABS o'licious-ness.

Take it for what it's worth.

When I bought my car last week (yes... it was a dealer :rolleyes:, )I went in with a cashier's check and paid in full. Noticing the dealer did not produce a title, I asked about it.

"We don't even have titles here You'll get it in the mail. You are the first person this year to even be able to get a title. Very few people here get to ever see one."

Add all the features you want. Progress? Maybe. Change for the sake of change? Maybe.

Can we even collectively afford all this "progress?" Specifically when all these add ons make the car a forced disposable item that people cannot even act on without a lien?

According to the dealer. No.

Now get off my lawn while I install new batteries for the remote to open my rear gate before the groceries thaw out! :)

rusnak 04-23-2021 03:07 PM

My mom's Lezbaru Outback has all of that auto crap. All of it. I drive her sheetboku around the building to fill it up once per week, and I can't wait to get out of it. I dust myself off just to get the stench of auto-schit off of me.

My Cayman S has the seatbelt warning if you unclick the seatbelt with the door open, so I disabled it with Durametric Pro. The headlight covers are easy. Buy new headlights.

Evans, Marv 04-23-2021 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thor66 (Post 11307855)
late '60s:D

Ha! '50s! Not necessarrily the cars like they were with heavy bumpers, etc. But a modern, light, economical car without all the gizmos. I wonder if one like (could pass all the safety requirements) that would sell, or if people are so addicated to modern stuff, they wouldn't consider it.

pmax 04-23-2021 03:53 PM

Push button ignition.

wdfifteen 04-23-2021 04:10 PM

I don’t have an opinion whether it’s good or bad, but I’ve always wondered why Toyota makes you turn cruise control ON before you can set it. In my Chevy if I want to set a cruise speed I just get up to that speed and hit “set”. In the Tundra I have to turn the system ON and set the speed separately. Any idea why?


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