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id10t 05-16-2021 08:27 AM

would you install spyware for tax reasons?
 
https://mobile.slashdot.org/story/21/05/15/0436234/wealthy-install-location-tracking-apps-to-establish-proof-of-residency-for-tax-purposes

wtf ....

dad911 05-16-2021 08:35 AM

Yes but will that hold up as proof? I could give a phone with the tracking app and some credit cards to a friend in Delaware and save a bundle.

red-beard 05-16-2021 08:47 AM

Who needs to install Spyware? Just get any Android phone

stevej37 05-16-2021 09:41 AM

I play MI Lotto almost every day because the 'spin to win' game is free to play and they give away $5000 every month.

Last week in Florida,with my android phone, I tried to play it one day. It wouldn't let me because I was out of state.
And I have the location services turned off. :confused:

id10t 05-16-2021 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11333546)
I play MI Lotto almost every day because the 'spin to win' game is free to play and they give away $5000 every month.

Last week in Florida,with my android phone, I tried to play it one day. It wouldn't let me because I was out of state.
And I have the location services turned off. :confused:

geolocation by ip address or reporting anyway and reading based on what tower/carrier your request originated from

stevej37 05-16-2021 10:33 AM

^^^ I should have also mentioned that I also tried it using the hotels wi-fi and turning off the cell service...still wouldn't accept it.

Can they trace it by wi-fi also?

id10t 05-16-2021 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11333579)
^^^ I should have also mentioned that I also tried it using the hotels wi-fi and turning off the cell service...still wouldn't accept it.

Can they trace it by wi-fi also?

Yes, that is possible. Depends on what reverse DNS is set up for the ip in question - some service providers break ips up by state/region/city/etc. Also what people using services like speedtest have reported as their location when using that service, etc.

stevej37 05-16-2021 11:42 AM

^^^ Thanks...good to know!

Geronimo '74 05-17-2021 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 11333510)
Who needs to install Spyware? Just get any Android phone

or turn on location settings.
Who needs to install spyware? Nobody does.

masraum 05-17-2021 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 11333510)
Who needs to install Spyware? Just get any Smart phone

FIFY.

Apple phones are perfectly happy to track everything if you let them.

masraum 05-17-2021 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11333625)
^^^ Thanks...good to know!

Yep, a lot of TV shows act like you can trace an IP to a specific house or room in a building which is 99.99% whooey, but 99% of the time, you can use an IP address to trace to a general area. Often it's a city, but sometimes it may be within 100-200 miles.

GH85Carrera 05-17-2021 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11334248)
Yep, a lot of TV shows act like you can trace an IP to a specific house or room in a building which is 99.99% whooey, but 99% of the time, you can use an IP address to trace to a general area. Often it's a city, but sometimes it may be within 100-200 miles.

All you have to do is pound on the keyboard in really fast keystrokes, any random keystrokes, except using the space bar, or the return key, and never ever the backspace key, and certainly don't touch the mouse, and in seconds you can hack into the DOD or IRS or any company on the planet. Then you can enhance a reflection of a license tag from the bumper of a car across the street from an ATM and clearly read the tag, or track the location of anyone that used an electronic device in any form.

I have seen it all on TV! It must be real.

Sooner or later 05-17-2021 06:12 AM

I get a Google Maps Timelime report each month.

It nails every business that I visit. And it is damn close on the roads I travel. It always misses my travel on NE Roger's Lane and draws a path straight across undeveloped Indian land.

GH85Carrera 05-17-2021 06:25 AM

For over 30 years my great aunt and uncle traveled the continent in their RV. The "lived" in Oregon, and at least back then they had to spend 3 months per year in Oregon to claim it as a resident state.

They bought a lot, put in a RV hook up and a concrete pad and would spend one month or so in Oregon, then hit the road again. They made sure to have proof they were in Oregon as residents for the needed time.

Long before cell phones or the internet.

To answer the OP question, no, but I am not at the level of wealth it is a problem.

Jim Bremner 05-17-2021 03:57 PM

I have heard of some wealthy people hiring people in income taxless states to use the wealthy persons phone and credit cards

All of this is while the person is in California and has a burnner phone and using cash.

jyl 05-17-2021 05:25 PM

This is an interesting topic. I am mulling a move to WA over the next few to several years. Whenever it happens, I’d ideally buy a house in WA, move all licenses and registrations and mail to WA, move my office to WA, but keep my OR house as a vacation home to use when visiting friends, perhaps a quarter of the year, as well as an investment. I’ve been looking at whether OR would still be able to subject me to state income tax.

All I’ve really concluded so far is that it is complicated :-)


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