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911boost 05-25-2021 08:34 PM

My 6.0 2004 Excursion was rock solid too and stock without a tuner or any of that crap.

As we have discussed Denis I really like my 2012 6.7L and with 110K on it would drive it anywhere without hesitation. Biggest issue I have had was the intake pipe from the intercooler popped in half one day. It is a know issue so the part is cheap but I went aftermarket aluminum so I wouldn't have to worry.

I just looked them up and jeebus, I had no idea it was still worth as much as people are asking.

speeder 05-25-2021 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 911boost (Post 11343514)
My 6.0 2004 Excursion was rock solid too and stock without a tuner or any of that crap.

As we have discussed Denis I really like my 2012 6.7L and with 110K on it would drive it anywhere without hesitation. Biggest issue I have had was the intake pipe from the intercooler popped in half one day. It is a know issue so the part is cheap but I went aftermarket aluminum so I wouldn't have to worry.

I just looked them up and jeebus, I had no idea it was still worth as much as people are asking.

There was a clean 2012 6.7 truck w a rod knock for $14k today on CL in NorCal. It was gone in 60 seconds. I was interested but a used engine is ~7k and then some shop has to do the swap, it's a body off frame operation on those. Still, for around $25k all-in, someone got a score.

unclebilly 05-26-2021 03:17 AM

My friend has an 08 and an 09 F350 Harley truck. He owns a construction company and has 4 bulldozers, 2 gravel trucks, and 3 track hoes.

He drove his 08 through a very deep puddle and hydro locked it 2 years ago. He bent a rod.

He pulled the engine and rebuilt it without removing the cab. I know the dealer removes the cab but he didn’t have to. He did remove the rad and rad support and somehow got it out and back in.

I saw the truck with the engine out in his garage with a low ceiling. The cab was not removed.

These 6.7s have been great for him. That 08 has over 600,000 hard kms on it.

speeder 05-26-2021 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by unclebilly (Post 11343605)
My friend has an 08 and an 09 F350 Harley truck. He owns a construction company and has 4 bulldozers, 2 gravel trucks, and 3 track hoes.

He drove his 08 through a very deep puddle and hydro locked it 2 years ago. He bent a rod.

He pulled the engine and rebuilt it without removing the cab. I know the dealer removes the cab but he didn’t have to. He did remove the rad and rad support and somehow got it out and back in.

I saw the truck with the engine out in his garage with a low ceiling. The cab was not removed.

These 6.7s have been great for him. That 08 has over 600,000 hard kms on it.

2008 and 2009 Fords are not 6.7 engines, they are 6.4 liters. 6.4 Power Strokes are the worst engines ever put in a diesel PU truck in America, they were the last straw for Ford and caused them to start manufacturing their own Diesel engines. All previous PSDs were made by International. One of the members here, (OWP), recently had a 6.4 truck with some mods done to it that ran well for him for a year or two and that is literally the only story I've ever heard of successful ownership on one of those. The stories and lawsuits are real and they are legion.

The 6.7 trucks, (2012 and newer), have been really good and make nearly 1000 lbs./ft of torque in stock form. They are pricey on the used market.

pavulon 05-26-2021 03:48 PM

Keep the boost under 250lbs!

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Dan J 05-26-2021 03:57 PM

My grampa used to say... a lot of things but his quote on Dodge trucks was:
A pile of shyte held together with diarhea juice Grampa was no dope

speeder 05-26-2021 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan J (Post 11344385)
My grampa used to say... a lot of things but his quote on Dodge trucks was:
A pile of shyte held together with diarhea juice Grampa was no dope


:D:D I'd like to find a truck exactly like yours, Dan, but they are hard to find!

"RAM...the truck so bad, even Dodge didn't want their name on it."

1990C4S 05-27-2021 05:55 AM

Check out deboss on youtube. He's the Cummins genius.

He builds all kids of vehicles powered by CCummins, but none of them are Dodges.

I think the answer earlier was correct, great engine, bad trucks.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=deboss+everthing+wrong+with+c ummins

unclebilly 05-27-2021 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11343775)
2008 and 2009 Fords are not 6.7 engines, they are 6.4 liters. 6.4 Power Strokes are the worst engines ever put in a diesel PU truck in America, they were the last straw for Ford and caused them to start manufacturing their own Diesel engines. All previous PSDs were made by International. One of the members here, (OWP), recently had a 6.4 truck with some mods done to it that ran well for him for a year or two and that is literally the only story I've ever heard of successful ownership on one of those. The stories and lawsuits are real and they are legion.

The 6.7 trucks, (2012 and newer), have been really good and make nearly 1000 lbs./ft of torque in stock form. They are pricey on the used market.

Yes you are correct. His are 6.4s, not 6.7s.

His have been excellent apart from the water ingestion on the 08 and a prior broken rocker arm from a -40 start not plugged in.

He has over 600,000 oilfield construction kms on that truck. I’ve driven it and it runs just fine.

porsche4life 05-27-2021 04:05 PM

Man you have the weirdest experiences with trucks. One of the worst trucks on the road you say is great, and one of the trucks known for being reliable you say is junk and breaks down all the time.

speeder 05-27-2021 05:55 PM

6.4 Power Stroke trucks are hands down the worst PU trucks ever sold in North America. They can be modified for better reliability but as they came from the factory, they had catastrophic failures within 20k miles. They are not DIY fixable because the entire cab has to be removed/lifted from the frame to do most of the engine related work. I’m a huge Ford truck guy but they are unbelievable junk.

I went looking for other examples of exploding transfer cases on Dodge trucks online and came up blank. With all due respect to Unclebilly, (and I do respect him), based on the photos he’s posted of his Toyota Tundra towing something like 4x its rated capacity, I’m going to venture that he uses PU trucks outside of their intended purposes.

UB, what exactly were you doing when the TC blew up? Just driving through deep snow/mud or were you trying to yank a 20k lb. tractor out of a mud hole with it, maybe slamming it against a tow chain? I’m really curious.

porsche4life 05-27-2021 06:21 PM

I’ve seen a second gen(very similar driveline) pull a 26kln crane truck with a 10klb trailer behind it out of the mud without blowing up a transfer case. I’m not saying it can’t happen, but I’m saying it would probably take a fair amount of sustained abuse to totally blow one up.

greglepore 05-28-2021 04:14 AM

https://www.facebook.com/groups/424403060978750/permalink/3972326699519684/?sale_post_id=3972326699519684

Lots of miles, but its a nice cheap 7.3

unclebilly 05-28-2021 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11345608)
6.4 Power Stroke trucks are hands down the worst PU trucks ever sold in North America. They can be modified for better reliability but as they came from the factory, they had catastrophic failures within 20k miles. They are not DIY fixable because the entire cab has to be removed/lifted from the frame to do most of the engine related work. I’m a huge Ford truck guy but they are unbelievable junk.

I went looking for other examples of exploding transfer cases on Dodge trucks online and came up blank. With all due respect to Unclebilly, (and I do respect him), based on the photos he’s posted of his Toyota Tundra towing something like 4x its rated capacity, I’m going to venture that he uses PU trucks outside of their intended purposes.

UB, what exactly were you doing when the TC blew up? Just driving through deep snow/mud or were you trying to yank a 20k lb. tractor out of a mud hole with it, maybe slamming it against a tow chain? I’m really curious.


When the TC blew up, I was driving North on MacLeod Trail (paved 4 lane) just coming into Calgary. I was a few hundred free south of the town limits and without warning there was a huge bang. The truck lost power, and I was barely able to get it off the road. It was just getting dark and I was on my way to a Calgary Flames game. With no tail lights, it was a hazard to others. I put out the flares I had and called a tow truck.

The heaviest thing I hauled with that truck was my old Alfa Gold 34RLK 5th wheel that I was living in at the time as I built my house. I actually towed that trailer home from Georgetown, TX with that truck before I bought it from my brother.

It was a great truck except for when it wasn’t. Unfortunately it wasn’t more often than not.

It’s just a matter of time until yours starts to C-note and G-note you to death.

VINMAN 05-28-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 11345491)
Man you have the weirdest experiences with trucks. One of the worst trucks on the road you say is great, and one of the trucks known for being reliable you say is junk and breaks down all the time.

Every vehicle made has its issues.

My 2nd gen Ram has had every problem occur that its known for. I have a few friends with the exact identical truck that have never had a single issue with them. Same thing with my Super Duty. Things everyone claims they are known for, have never happened to mine.

It's the luck of the draw with any vehicle.


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oldE 05-28-2021 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11344501)
:D:D I'd like to find a truck exactly like yours, Dan, but they are hard to find!

"RAM...the truck so bad, even Dodge didn't want their name on it."

That's interesting. Back in the early '80s, we had Fords and Dodges in our delivery fleet. The maintenance files on the Dodges were half the thickness of the files on the Fords.
Of course we were running 318s in the Dodges and something like a 320 in the Fords. Back when gas was cheap.
Best
Les

Brando 06-08-2021 08:06 AM

I thought it appropriate to share, even though my 2005 is not a Cummins diesel. I was worried the MIL bulb finally burned out - but checked with the scanner today and no codes. This after almost a year of dealing with EVAP issues which stemmed from a crappy install of a fuel pump (by a shop) years ago.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1623168317.jpg


For anyone considering a truck ~10 years or more in age, be advised that NUMEROUS parts on indefinite back-order or NLA. Even fuel & emission items. Example: Gas tanks are NLA and permanent back-order.


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