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Chocaholic 06-09-2021 05:36 AM

That video was hard to watch. So, I gave up a few minutes in. The host needs his hands tie wrapped behind his back. Sheesh!

Back on topic...the 40mpg version will tow 2000 lbs. Seems pretty useless. Suspect the Taco shouldn’t lose sleep.

porsche4life 06-09-2021 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 11357024)

Back on topic...the 40mpg version will tow 2000 lbs. Seems pretty useless. Suspect the Taco shouldn’t lose sleep.

Why do we always get so hung up on tow rating? I see a TON of half ton trucks that have never towed a trailer a day in their life. Most Tacoma’s have never hauled more than the shopping back from Macy’s, and yet everyone acts like the measure that matters for every truck is tow rating. 🙄. If you are seriously towing, a Tacoma isn’t the right truck to buy either, but we can save that for a different thread.

I know plenty of people that never haul more than the 1500lbs payload this is rated for, and would be happy to have a smaller vehicle that gets better MPG the rest of the time.

Sooner or later 06-09-2021 07:43 AM

The Ranger and Tacoma are after a similar market. The Maverick isn't trying to complete in that segment.

aschen 06-09-2021 08:11 AM

I like the Ideal of a commuter truck and think/hope it will sell well. It makes sense for alot of truck buyers I think. I think it will help alot that it looks like a ford truck and not some new age futuristic design statement. I think ford knows its market with trucks. Lightning concept seems well executed as well.

jyl 06-09-2021 08:23 AM

More info. https://www.autoblog.com/amp/2021/06/08/ford-maverick-size-comparison-f150-ranger/

Puzzled by the lack of AWD option for the hybrid.

porsche4life 06-09-2021 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11357177)
More info. https://www.autoblog.com/amp/2021/06/08/ford-maverick-size-comparison-f150-ranger/

Puzzled by the lack of AWD option for the hybrid.

I thought maybe it’s just that they didn’t have an AWD hybrid power train to pull off the shelf? But I just looked and you can spec out an escape hybrid with AWD, so they’ve got the tech already.

onewhippedpuppy 06-09-2021 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 11357124)
Why do we always get so hung up on tow rating? I see a TON of half ton trucks that have never towed a trailer a day in their life. Most Tacoma’s have never hauled more than the shopping back from Macy’s, and yet everyone acts like the measure that matters for every truck is tow rating. 🙄. If you are seriously towing, a Tacoma isn’t the right truck to buy either, but we can save that for a different thread.

I know plenty of people that never haul more than the 1500lbs payload this is rated for, and would be happy to have a smaller vehicle that gets better MPG the rest of the time.

Exactly. Most trucks never haul more than a few bags of dog food or mulch. I went from regularly towing about 10,000 lbs to hauling life jackets to/from the lake and the occasional home improvement project, which allowed me to downsize from my F250 to a Gladiator. I think if people were honest about their actual truck needs vs buying into advertising hype, probably 80% of truck owners are driving around way too much truck.

Chocaholic 06-09-2021 09:33 AM

Geez guys. There’s a world of towing utility between 2000 and 10,000 lbs. Having the ability to occasionally tow a small boat, utility trailer, etc would exceed 2000 lbs. If I’m buying a truck, I’d like to know that on the occasions I need to take my boat in for service that my truck can tow more than a Honda Accord.

As I recall, the Tacoma can tow about 6k lbs. That’s a very realistic capability for the occasional need. Not everyone is moving bulldozers...or nothing.

Seahawk 06-09-2021 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 11357213)
I think if people were honest about their actual truck needs vs buying into advertising hype, probably 80% of truck owners are driving around way too much truck.

No question at all. There are guys driving dualies here that haven't towed a ham sandwich.

I'll probably keep my Tundra even after we sell the farm because it drives like a dream on long trips. As soon as it become problematic, I am looking at the next step down in size.

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Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 11357255)
I need to take my boat in for service that my truck can tow more than a Honda Accord.

As I recall, the Tacoma can tow about 6k lbs. That’s a very realistic capability for the occasional need.

I get it, I really do. I ran the farm before we did the horse thing with an SR-5 R22E Toyota truck then a 2000 4 cylinder Tacoma with a tow rating of 3500lbs. I had a 5x8 utility trailer that was perfect.

It can be done. In your case, if you need a bigger truck, no worries, buy or keep one.

But, Matt is wrong: I'd say 90%:D

ErVikingo 06-09-2021 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11356499)
One thing I'm not thrilled about is that initially they won't offer AWD + hybrid. I have to think it is possible for later.

They would have to redesign as (AFAIK) the electric motor is part of the CVT transmission. The 4wd is an 8 speed

Sooner or later 06-09-2021 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 11357255)
Geez guys. There’s a world of towing utility between 2000 and 10,000 lbs. Having the ability to occasionally tow a small boat, utility trailer, etc would exceed 2000 lbs. If I’m buying a truck, I’d like to know that on the occasions I need to take my boat in for service that my truck can tow more than a Honda Accord.

As I recall, the Tacoma can tow about 6k lbs. That’s a very realistic capability for the occasional need. Not everyone is moving bulldozers...or nothing.

Then they can move up to the Ranger that can be spec'd up to 7,500.

The Maverick can be optioned up to 4,000. The base Tacoma is 3,800.

Ford is looking for sales in a new segment that won't compete with Ranger/Tacoma/Colorado.

Steve Carlton 06-09-2021 10:32 AM

There's this vague news. But it's to be expected, the way things are going.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a36661112/ford-spokesperson-teases-small-electric-pickup/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_rdt&utm_medium=email&date =060921&utm_campaign=nl24056068&utm_term=AAA%20--%20High%20Minus%20Dormant%20and%2090%20Day%20Non%2 0Openers

onewhippedpuppy 06-09-2021 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 11357255)
Geez guys. There’s a world of towing utility between 2000 and 10,000 lbs. Having the ability to occasionally tow a small boat, utility trailer, etc would exceed 2000 lbs. If I’m buying a truck, I’d like to know that on the occasions I need to take my boat in for service that my truck can tow more than a Honda Accord.

As I recall, the Tacoma can tow about 6k lbs. That’s a very realistic capability for the occasional need. Not everyone is moving bulldozers...or nothing.

I would bet money that more than 50% of truck owners have never towed anything.

Also the Tacoma really isn’t a valid comparison from what I can see. It’s a larger body on frame truck that costs approximately double.

Jrboulder 06-09-2021 10:55 AM

IMO the Maverick is aimed at people who otherwise wouldn't be buying a pickup.

onewhippedpuppy 06-09-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jrboulder (Post 11357371)
IMO the Maverick is aimed at people who otherwise wouldn't be buying a pickup.

Autoblog says it’s a replacement for the Focus.

Brando 06-09-2021 07:34 PM

I'm... Wanting to test drive one. Lariat trim, of course. Gotta see how that leg room is for the family in the back seat (plus a car seat). I would opt for the ecoboost with towing package. 4,000 lbs. is perfect for our 2,500 lbs. tent trailer and cargo.

If the rear seat area is too small, I'll stick with a RAM. Of course, that's assuming there will be vehicles in supply that are affordable next year.

onewhippedpuppy 06-10-2021 03:17 AM

According to the Autoblog comparison to the Ranger, the new Maverick has more rear legroom but a smaller bed. The Ranger is “adequate” for an adult, I’m 6’1” and have sat in my father in law’s new one. Definitely would not want to do three adults across though.

Otter74 06-10-2021 07:11 AM

I was just visiting friends in Portland for a week. They have a Honda Fit and a pickup - just replaced a 99 Tacoma (4WD, TRD, extra cab, topper, roof rack) with a 2014 Frontier crew cab. Haven't sold the Taco yet so we got to drive it and I love it and want to buy it (but won't) They use the truck for carrying their canoe, towing the small wooden boat that he bult, and carrying ****. Everything the Taco does for them, a truck like this Maverick would do just as well and use no more than half the fuel doing it.

jyl 06-10-2021 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 11357914)
I'm... Wanting to test drive one. Lariat trim, of course. Gotta see how that leg room is for the family in the back seat (plus a car seat). I would opt for the ecoboost with towing package. 4,000 lbs. is perfect for our 2,500 lbs. tent trailer and cargo.

If the rear seat area is too small, I'll stick with a RAM. Of course, that's assuming there will be vehicles in supply that are affordable next year.

I'm wondering if anyone makes/will make a shell for the Maverick where the shell's roof can somehow fold up and out of the way for when you want to carry something taller. So most of the time you've got an enclosed shell and the Maverick is essentially a tall station wagon, but when you want to carry bigger stuff, the bed can be open to the sky like a pickup. Is anything like this available for any pickup truck?

P.S. A rigid shell, not a "convertible" like the "Softtopper".

herr_oberst 06-10-2021 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11358298)
I'm wondering if anyone makes/will make a shell for the Maverick where the shell's roof can somehow fold up and out of the way for when you want to carry something taller. So most of the time you've got an enclosed shell and the Maverick is essentially a tall station wagon, but when you want to carry bigger stuff, the bed can be open to the sky like a pickup. Is anything like this available for any pickup truck?

Probably a BestTop or something similar.

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