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vash 06-08-2021 06:41 PM

“I’m not going to lie, this is going to hurt”
 
That’s what my delightful doctor said to me. Haha.

I have trigger finger, and not the good kind. For about a month, my middle and ring-finger were hopelessly locked in a semi-curl. I could massage them throughout the day and they loosen up, but waking up the next morning put me back at square-1. Ouch.
She suggested more rest and cortisone shots. Right into my hand. It didn’t hurt that bad. It didn’t tickle, but my wince was way over the top. Anticipation. I’ll lay off the yard work.

Then. Boom. “Here have your second shingles injection”. A cutie came in and stuck me in the arm. That kinda hurt.

“Hey, you want me to burn that off your hand?” Okay that hurt. Still hurts.

In general, very Monday-like today.

As I understand it, the shingles booster can produce flu-like symptoms. Anyone get laid out from this booster shot?

wswartzwel 06-08-2021 06:46 PM

Iam scheduled to get mine this month. Having to wait due to covid vaccine last month. tell me howit goes

MMiller 06-08-2021 06:50 PM

Yup, 2nd shingles hit me harder than 2nd Covid..

wdfifteen 06-08-2021 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 11356763)
Anyone get laid out from this booster shot?

I wasn't much in the mood due to the shot but MrsWD talked me into it, so I guess it's a yes.

masraum 06-08-2021 07:09 PM

We were supposed to have gotten our second shingrex shot back in Apr or May, but got the CV19 shots instead. I think we're going to try to get our second shingrex This coming Friday. I think they said 2-6 months, and that'll be well within that period.

So what's the cause of trigger finger, inflammation?

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Originally Posted by MMiller (Post 11356771)
Yup, 2nd shingles hit me harder than 2nd Covid..

interesting. I didn't have any effects from either covid shot other than the pretty normal dull ache at the injection site.

vash 06-08-2021 07:28 PM

My booster is way late. COVID just knocked out the option. She said there is a new memo stating late is better than never. If anything changes, I’ll just start over.

vash 06-08-2021 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11356787)

So what's the cause of trigger finger, inflammation?



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Yes. I think I was using a shovel wrong. I put my hand on the blunt end and would stab at the hard soil. It’s the only thing I can’t think of. I was hammering out weeds at the office. Next time I’ll use a shovel with a handle at the end. Or let the weeds win.

Noah930 06-08-2021 07:33 PM

That's probably the most painful shot I give. I think it's because there are so many nerve endings in the palm.

WPOZZZ 06-08-2021 11:25 PM

Ahh, what a timely post! I went to my hand surgeon today for trigger finger on my middle and index finger. Got the shot in both fingers and it wasn't bad. Been doing this for a while and she said I should think about surgery. She did the index finger on my right hand a few years ago.

You want a painful shot? My shoulder guy gives me a shot for my rotator cuff. He has to walk the needle along the bone and when he starts injecting the corticosteroid. Moves the needle a little and injects some more. That shot is damned painful! When I am really sick, my doc gives me a Rocephin shot. Holy Mother of God, that thing hurts!

Deschodt 06-08-2021 11:40 PM

Shingrix shot 1 did nothing to me, nada. Due for shot 2 anytime now...

Trigger finger: The doc initially gave me 3x800 mg of advil per day. Max dose I think. It made me so loopy I could not take it, advil, who knew... Trigger finger ended up going away on its own when I stopped doing what was triggering it (in my case I was painting my entire house) and started mousing left handed. Took a whole year to heal itself 100%. I can sometimes feel it attempting a comeback when wrenching hard, I stop... Apparently I'm falling apart.

On another semi-related note I developed ulnar nerve issues where some fingers would go numb if I bent my elbow, esp at night. Saw 2 docs and both told me the only lasting option was surgery to transpose the nerve and bypass the elbow canal... I'm currently in Europe and on a whim went back to see an old osteopath I used to use when playing competitive tennis (to fix ankles and stuff)... Haven't found a good one in the states yet. The guy stretched and cracked this and that, my #%^$^ finger numbness that I've had daily (well nightly) for 2 years is GONE. Just like that. He said it was pinched in my cervicals, not the elbow. crack boom. Unbelievable. I am NOT a believer in non-scientific medicine and Chiro-balooney-science makes me laugh, but hell, the osteo guy worked and it's not placebo... I have slept w.o my elbow brace for a week now... Just saying also explore acupuncture and other stuff before doing surgery, if it ever comes to that...

masraum 06-09-2021 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 11356807)
That's probably the most painful shot I give. I think it's because there are so many nerve endings in the palm.

I once had 2 mls of immunoglobulin injected into my index finger. That was painful. (they were trying to get 10mls of it as close to the tip of my finger as possible) It was about 20 injections all around the finger. immunoglobulin is a thick fluid and requires a big fat needle. I've had lots of shots over the years, but that was the worst. I don't remember the pain, but i do remember that when the intern took a short break after giving me the first mil, I assume, to go consult the Dr, I got tunnel vision. What I could see shrank until I could only see a small spot on the wall. Everything else was black. I'd never experienced that before or since. Then he came back into the room and gave me about 10 more pricks. When he got done, my finger looked more like a sausage, swollen and completely smooth. immunoglobulin was beading up on the outside of the finger at every injection site. Then they put the remaining 8ml into my arms, 4ml in each delt.

WPOZZZ 06-09-2021 05:15 AM

When I was in college, I changed the oil in my cousin's Honda. The oil drain plug was on really tight so I had to bust it loose. I also split my finger open doing so. Went to the urgent care and the doc needed to stitch it up. He injected the numbing solution into the split in my finger and along with the excruciating pain, I swear it felt like it was going to burst.

flatbutt 06-09-2021 05:18 AM

Sweet weepin' Jesu aren't we a bunch of busted up geezers, myself included.

rusnak 06-09-2021 05:19 AM

I'm told the nasal Covid test is like an alien abduction. I'd probably kick the nurse in the nether regions...reflexively of course.

Skip Newsom 06-09-2021 05:38 AM

I dare anyone to find a forum where Shingles, CV19, trigger fingers and cortisone shots are all discussed in the same thread.

I'm due for the Shingles shot too- Higgins thread on how much fun that wasn't has given me a push to get that taken care of.

I've only had one go-round with trigger finger (keep the safety on for heavens sake) that was "triggered" by brush painting the exterior of our house years ago. It improved after I finished painting but it's still easy to get a flareup if I do more silly things like mix and pour concrete, lots of raking- anything that has "forceful gripping" involved.

My days as a trapeze artist are over before they began.

masraum 06-09-2021 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Newsom (Post 11357025)
I dare anyone to find a forum where Shingles, CV19, trigger fingers and cortisone shots are all discussed in the same thread.

I'm due for the Shingles shot too- Higgins thread on how much fun that wasn't has given me a push to get that taken care of.

I've only had one go-round with trigger finger (keep the safety on for heavens sake) that was "triggered" by brush painting the exterior of our house years ago. It improved after I finished painting but it's still easy to get a flareup if I do more silly things like mix and pour concrete, lots of raking- anything that has "forceful gripping" involved.

My days as a trapeze artist are over before they began.

You guys with the trigger finger thing are never going to win any masturbation contests now either.

vash 06-09-2021 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11357031)
You guys with the trigger finger thing are never going to win any masturbation contests now either.

Challenge accepted. It’s “ungripping” that’s painful. (<—-in green font please). Spanking it is pain free, waving bye bye hurts :)

masraum 06-09-2021 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 11357039)
Challenge accepted. It’s “ungripping” that’s painful. (<—-in green font please). Spanking it is pain free, waving bye bye hurts :)

ROFLMAO!

So what you're saying is that you now have "GI Joe, kung fu grip"

Z-man 06-09-2021 07:02 AM

I have Dupuytren's (du-pwe-TRANZ) contracture in both of my hands. Was treated for it once already. It never goes away, but the treatment will last 5-10 years.

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Dupuytren's (du-pwe-TRANZ) contracture is a hand deformity that usually develops over years. The condition affects a layer of tissue that lies under the skin of your palm. Knots of tissue form under the skin — eventually creating a thick cord that can pull one or more fingers into a bent position.
Source: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/dupuytrens-contracture/symptoms-causes/syc-20371943

https://www.mayoclinic.org/-/media/k...ensthu_jpg.jpg

It is similar to trigger finger in that your fingers are curled over.

Treatment is either surgery, where they open up your hand and scrape off the knots of tissue off your ligaments, or you get a shot of something called "Xiaflex" that dissolves the hardened tissue and then the doctor manipulates your hand to straighten out the fingers.

I chose the shot thinking it would be less painful. How wrong I was. Note: Any medicine that begins with an "X" is something that may cause a great amount of pain.

In order to dissolve the hardening, the doctor has to inject multiple shots of Xiaflex in order to get the effected areas surrounded by the medifine. The next day, the doctor inject a numbing agent into the same area before he yanks on your fingers to snap the ligaments and tendons free.

Suffice it to say, when the doctor injected me, I saw Jesus. I have a high tolerance for pain, but this one had me wanting to crawl into a corner and cry like a baby.

And then I had it done on the other hand as well. Despite the pain, it was worth getting the flexibility in my hands back!

Fun fact - there are a lot of nerve endings in your hands. A lot.

vash 06-09-2021 07:12 AM

dang Z!

I once had something cut off the bottom of my foot. the podiatrist said they would have to strap me in if they were to inject me thru the bottom. get this, they came in with a long needle thru the top of my foot. it still hurt, but I couldn't imagine the sole.

oldE 06-09-2021 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 11357010)
I'm told the nasal Covid test is like an alien abduction. I'd probably kick the nurse in the nether regions...reflexively of course.

Naw. I must admit though it seemed weird to have something go into your nose and set off a scratchy feeling in the back of your throat. It wasn't as bad as having the ENT thread a fiber optic scope into my sinuses.

Just another day.
Best
Les

TimT 06-09-2021 07:22 AM

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He has to walk the needle along the bone and when he starts injecting the corticosteroid. Moves the needle a little and injects some more. That shot is damned painful!
When I've had cortisone injections for tennis elbow... the orthopedist does that.. My elbow is raised, fist on the counter.. freezes the joint, then walks the needle around injecting....

I've had it done 2X, and both times he said that I would hate him for a few days.. then my elbow would be fine...

Black and blue and sore for a few days... then a few years of relief...

BTW, I've never played tennis..

Tobra 06-09-2021 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 11356807)
That's probably the most painful shot I give. I think it's because there are so many nerve endings in the palm.

That, and there is no place for the fluid to go

Worst ones I do are for plantar warts, especially if I can't get to them by injecting from the top of the foot. An injection of local with epinephrine through the plantar skin will make you a sad clam.

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Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 11357005)
When I was in college, I changed the oil in my cousin's Honda. The oil drain plug was on really tight so I had to bust it loose. I also split my finger open doing so. Went to the urgent care and the doc needed to stitch it up. He injected the numbing solution into the split in my finger and along with the excruciating pain, I swear it felt like it was going to burst.

Urgent care guy did not know what he was doing. You do a digital block for that, at the base of the digit

pitargue 06-09-2021 09:23 AM

I had great success with acupuncture for carpal tunnel, so decided to try it for trigger finger.

I will never pay my hard earned money to inflict that much pain on myself nor anyone else for that matter. Like others have said, it is possibly the most pain I've endured. Holy Moly!

rusnak 06-09-2021 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 11357005)
When I was in college, I changed the oil in my cousin's Honda. The oil drain plug was on really tight so I had to bust it loose. I also split my finger open doing so. Went to the urgent care and the doc needed to stitch it up. He injected the numbing solution into the split in my finger and along with the excruciating pain, I swear it felt like it was going to burst.

I tore the flesh off a finger twice. Once, it was caught in a tractor PTO drive. Inside the U-joint. I was changing an out of balance one, and the damn greasy thing fell out of my hands and "crunch". Second time, I was checking my Cayman front wheel to see if it was out of round after hitting a pothole (it was). Finger was pushing the wheel round and round, faster and faster. Finger got caught on a spoke, and then hit the Brembo 6-piston caliper. Wheel immediately stopped turning. Blood everywhere and you could see the bone. It took hours to stop the bleeding by wrapping it and kept the hand in an ice bucket with water. I had to freeze the finger to get blood to stop.

I have no idea how I managed to not break any bones in my life so far.

WPOZZZ 06-09-2021 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 11357105)
dang Z!

I once had something cut off the bottom of my foot. the podiatrist said they would have to strap me in if they were to inject me thru the bottom. get this, they came in with a long needle thru the top of my foot. it still hurt, but I couldn't imagine the sole.

Oh man, my gf had that done. She was a champ when she got the shot, but the doctor was elderly and his hand was not steady.

mjohnson 06-09-2021 01:53 PM

Back in the last century I was an unlucky HS senior on a ski trip. Good old lake-effect whiteout somewhere south of Charlevoix, mi.

In my 17yo wisdom I decided it would be wise to stop a pickup truck from the passenger seat in a Honda. Turns out that was unwise.

A few hours later in the hospital a chest tube is called for. Dr. says "hold on, this is gonna hurt!"

Yup - turns out them Drs are pretty smart. Funnier was getting catheterized. Nurse says not to fight it - Sure, lady, you can _say_ that but let's be honest on what this 17yo's pee-system is going to do...

red-beard 06-09-2021 02:16 PM

I have a hammer toe that needs fixing. Not as bad as the trigger finger.

On Shingrix, my first inject hurt because an incompetent gave me the shot! Second one was easy, but I was really tired the next day. Not as bad as #2 Moderna.

gacook 06-09-2021 02:20 PM

I got pretty bad ingrown toenails as a kid. Had to get the doc to pop them out every so often. Always hated the injections between the toes. Hate injections in the mouth, too. Nothing else really bothers me.

Pain was when I "scalped" myself. I'm a ginger--and bald, so the sun is my mortal enemy, but I think it's my friend for some reason. Long volleyball tournament in Mexico left my head nice and burnt--REALLY burnt. Getting in my car, i misjudged the height and hit my head on the frame--peeled back a really nice chunk of skin. That hurt for days, and I started wearing hats.

Z-man 06-09-2021 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 11357617)
I have a hammer toe that needs fixing. Not as bad as the trigger finger.

On Shingrix, my first inject hurt because an incompetent gave me the shot! Second one was easy, but I was really tired the next day. Not as bad as #2 Moderna.

I’ve had surgery for hammertoe. That was worth it and they put you under for the operation.

vash 06-09-2021 06:50 PM

Ohhhh. I have a headache and a very slight fever.

GH85Carrera 06-10-2021 08:00 AM

As a kid I managed to break my big toe in 6 places. It was squashed under a heavy object. My toenail was black, and throbbing. At the hospital the doc had FOUR large orderlies follow him into the room. Both legs and both arms pinned to the table and he gave me a stick to bite down on. Then he tells me this will hurt for a few seconds and then feel instantly better.

He heated up a large needle in a flame, and got it cherry red, and then poked it right through my toenail. I was struggling, but with four guys holding me down I was pinned. Once the needle burned through my toe, it squirted black blood up past hip, and it was almost like an orgasm with the instant relief. Then they put me in a cast up to my knee and sent me home with crutches.

It was some of the worst pain I experience as a kid. Breaking my arm was not near as bad.


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