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island911 07-10-2021 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11387781)
Read more about “children’s resistance” before you declare children at no risk.

https://www.statnews.com/2021/06/10/as-more-kids-get-long-covid-doctors-still-cant-predict-who-is-at-risk/

Where did I declare children are at no risk.

At any given time, children present with health conditions. Some will blame vaccines, some will blame covid.

LIFE is risky. Pick your poison. At some point we all face insurmountable health challenges. -no one gets out alive.

pmax 07-10-2021 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11383366)
I am sorry for everyone struggling w/ long Covid. Thanks for sharing your info and hang in there.

For what its worth, I'm starting to read about research into Long Covid treatments, and it sounds like there's a lot of activity and some hints of progress.

On a economic basis, I'm wondering if one effect of Covid is an increase in medical and disability costs, and a reduction of the labor force, of unknown duration.

I haven't looked up numbers, but I think Covid has disproportionately hit certain demographics and occupations that might be more likely to have jobs with significant physical demands, that would be particularly hard to do with long Covid effects.

That is like retail, healthcare, first responders, etc. Over 900 Secret Service officers have gotten Covid. And now with schools reopening and not much pediatric vaccination, children are getting Covid at a high rate - right now, 22% of new Covid cases are in kids.

Meanwhile, progress in getting Americans vaccinated has slowed a lot, in some states and counties many people seem to have lost interest in getting vaccinated, and the antivaxxers are still spouting away which makes Putin and China happy.

I'm not hearing much talk about this in media or from public figures. Many people seem to think that as you as you get over the acute Covid symptoms, it's all good - hey, you're immune, congrats! - and that it doesn't matter if young kids get Covid - they almost always have mild cases, so who cares? Let's have a Covid sleepover, whee!

I'm thinking there is still a lot we are learning about Covid, and some of it is going to be not-good-at-all. If we walk into a winter Covid surge with Delta, while Covid spreads through schoolkids like disease usually does, can we just look at the death rates staying low, and figure its all fine?

Come back down to earth, bud, your post is all over the place and then some.

As Island said, you live, you get sick, you die, some earlier than others.

That's the way it is and has always been.

Fast Freddy 944 07-11-2021 02:10 AM

Covid shots after effects. SHINGLES, and neuropathy. It sucks, good luck, oh and now they are planning to knock on your door, and jab you with a needle...

jyl 07-15-2021 03:19 PM

Here is a very large and detailed study on complications in hospitalized Covid patients.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00799-6/fulltext

I am not going to summarize it in detail, but TL;DR is that the rate of complications is quite high, complications include renal cardiac neuro, and since things like renal damage do not go away quickly, Covid is likely to be an additional burden on our medical system and population for some time to come.

island911 07-15-2021 05:30 PM

The Lancet?

Seriously?

They have shown themselves to be fraudulent about the bug du China

thor66 07-15-2021 08:00 PM

yes, cite to the power line blog

flatbutt 07-16-2021 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fast Freddy 944 (Post 11388164)
Covid shots after effects. SHINGLES, and neuropathy. It sucks, good luck, oh and now they are planning to knock on your door, and jab you with a needle...

https://www.aaaai.org/Allergist-Resources/Ask-the-Expert/Answers/2021/shingles-covid

"...There have been a few case reports of shingles following a COVID-19 mRNA vaccines. These represent infrequent occurrences, and it has not been confirmed to be a causal link. McMahon, et. al, (1) reviewed a registry of 414 subjects that had cutaneous reactions following mRNA COVID vaccines. Of those 414 cutaneous reactions, shingles was seen in 1 of 34 receiving first Pfizer vaccine (2.9% of cutaneous reactions) and 4 of 40 receiving second Pfizer vaccine (10% of cutaneous reactions). The total number of vaccines from which these 414 cutaneous extracted was not reported...."

Fast Freddy 944 07-16-2021 08:07 AM

The shot is crap, I regret getting mine, still healing up from the shot induced shingles..

island911 07-16-2021 09:34 AM

shingles is triggered by stress to the body.

Seems ridiculous to claim that these vaccines are benign, and cause little stress to the body. Most get knocked down for at least a day, post shot - especially the second.

jyl 07-16-2021 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fast Freddy 944 (Post 11393577)
The shot is crap, I regret getting mine, still healing up from the shot induced shingles..

I, too, regret that you got vaccinated.

Sooner or later 07-16-2021 09:45 AM

Lol

island911 07-16-2021 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11393724)
I, too, regret that you got vaccinated.

oh I get it. Because you want him to die, and think that the vaccine will prevent that.

Classy and smrat.

group911@aol.co 07-16-2021 09:49 AM

Yep. Facts to the contrary sucks.
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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11393722)
shingles is triggered by stress to the body.

Seems ridiculous to claim that these vaccines are benign, and cause little stress to the body. Most get knocked down for at least a day, post shot - especially the second.


group911@aol.co 07-16-2021 09:50 AM

But I thought covid causing death was fake news?
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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11393742)
oh I get it. Because you want him to die, and think that the vaccine will prevent that.

Classy and smrat.


island911 07-16-2021 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by group911@aol.co (Post 11393745)
But I thought covid causing death was fake news?

Fun, how you make covid death a binary. --If one person died of covid then every death ever reported as covid can not be questioned.

So now, what about those vaccine deaths? Fake news too?

Sooner or later 07-16-2021 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11393742)
oh I get it. Because you want him to die, and think that the vaccine will prevent that.

Classy and smrat.

I took it differently. A light hearted remark that if he hadn't been vaccinated we wouldn't have to read about his shingles case and vax don't work over and over and over.

One other thing, "most" don't get knocked down for at least a day, post shot.


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