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speeder 08-09-2021 11:48 AM

Removing old chrome:
 
Any ideas appreciated. Long story short, I need to remove some old chrome that is in bad shape from a motorcycle part and then have it painted. I've been told that the only places with the vat of chemicals to do this are plating businesses, which are getting scarce and apparently can really name their price these days.

I was just quoted $150 minimum "shop charge" to dip this thing. That's a deal killer, I still need to have it professionally painted. I'm, going to talk to a body shop today, maybe they still have a bumper service(?)

The part:
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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1628538407.jpg
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Sooner or later 08-09-2021 12:03 PM

Possibly sandblast.
Muriatic acid/water mix

Tishabet 08-09-2021 12:06 PM

I would recommend checking out powdercoat, I've seen some "chrome" powdercoat jobs that were pretty impressive... not as good as real chrome but pretty nice.

Yorkie 08-09-2021 12:25 PM

Check out Artistic Plating in Harbor City. They stripped off the chrome from one of my Nortons a few years back.

944 S2 08-09-2021 12:34 PM

Why remove the chrome? I would sand and prep for paint right over the chrome.

stomachmonkey 08-09-2021 12:45 PM

If we are talking bumper hitches I know a chick.

gizmofixer 08-09-2021 12:48 PM

+1
Sand, prime and paint.
The triumph parts all seem to like Rustoleum Engine Enamel.
Been wondering how your project is progressing.........
Engine back in and running??

Shaun @ Tru6 08-09-2021 01:05 PM

Just media blast it with aluminum oxide at 100 psi. The media will create a nice etched surface for the epoxy primer too.

fastfredracing 08-09-2021 01:22 PM

They beat me to it already . I have sand blasted a few sets of older chrome truck wheels, and then painted them, and not only did they turn out great, have held up pretty well, even on my snow plow truck .

speeder 08-09-2021 01:56 PM

Thanks all! It did not really occur to me that I could just sand and paint over it. Or more specifically, that it would bond well. It also occurred to me while reading your responses that my buddy recently acquired a small media blast cabinet, time to try it out!

speeder 08-09-2021 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gizmofixer (Post 11418608)
+1
Sand, prime and paint.
The triumph parts all seem to like Rustoleum Engine Enamel.
Been wondering how your project is progressing.........
Engine back in and running??

Yep, riding it this weekend! Was ripping through a curve when the side cover let go…my error for not tightening it after some work the same day. Thanks for all your help! SmileWavy

Shaun @ Tru6 08-09-2021 02:01 PM

Make sure you use the correct media. Glass bead will probably remove the chrome but just dimple the surface. Some 180-220 sanding over that would work for paint surface prep but Al2O3 will give you the best surface ready for paint uniformly all over the part.

craigster59 08-09-2021 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11418606)
If we are talking bumper hitches I know a chick.

Where were you for my "Golf ball Through A Garden Hose" thread?

speeder 08-09-2021 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 11418672)
Make sure you use the correct media. Glass bead will probably remove the chrome but just dimple the surface. Some 180-220 sanding over that would work for paint surface prep but Al2O3 will give you the best surface ready for paint uniformly all over the part.

Thanks. I was thinking that blasting it with anything that would remove chrome would also pit the metal. I wish that I could just get it dipped.

Shaun @ Tru6 08-09-2021 05:18 PM

Done correctly, you want an etched surface for the epoxy primer to grab onto. Etched means more surface area for the primer to hold onto which means better adhesion. Fine grain aluminum oxide is the best choice for this job.

Fast Freddy 944 08-09-2021 05:25 PM

Sand blast it smooth. Just rent a blaster and do it yourself. Its easy..

red-beard 08-09-2021 08:05 PM

You can try bleach.

https://www.wikihow.com/Remove-Chrome-Plating

speeder 08-11-2021 07:45 AM

So, I took the old spinning disc to it, just to see what the effect would be. I have to say that it looks good for painting and if my bike was more of a rat or a bobber, it looks kind of cool as-is. Should be a good surface for paint adhesion...opinions? :)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1628696448.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1628696448.jpg

It was a really coarse disc, maybe I should sand it with a lighter grit now?

Zeke 08-11-2021 08:29 AM

The thing is, and I think Denis knows this, is that there is likely some rust under the copper base plating. It should dome down to bare metal. A stiff wire wheel will get the stuff he can reach, but dipping or blasting will make sure.

There is a lot of debate about dipping things that are joined by spot welds, etc. It takes extraordinary effort to make sure the blind areas are neutralized. I knew of one restoration shop that refused to did anything but engine blocks and the like.

So that bracket could be a problem if not done right.

speeder 08-11-2021 10:33 AM

Couldn’t that spot weld just be touched up if necessary?

Fast Freddy 944 08-11-2021 10:43 AM

Looks good to me Bubba!

Bill Douglas 08-11-2021 11:10 AM

Looking very fine!

An etch primer (they contain phosphoric acid) will hang onto the surface well. As will a good 2k epoxy. Then enough layers of high build primer that you can sand then re-apply until there are no scratches showing. 800 grit, then base coat and clear. Or a single stage. It's looking good. Etch primers grip well to carbon steel, alloys, copper, all sorts of metals.

speeder 09-07-2021 12:37 PM

So I had my painter handle this one, came out a little better than a rattle can: ;)



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1631046799.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1631046799.jpg

Scott Douglas 09-07-2021 12:49 PM

Looks nice, but what does the inside look like?

speeder 09-07-2021 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 11450722)
Looks nice, but what does the inside look like?

He removed what corrosion he could and then put some treatment on it(?) Anyhow, no one ever sees the inside.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1631051730.jpg


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