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sammyg2 08-12-2021 11:16 AM

If everyone is made equal at the finish line, why bother to run?

McLovin 08-12-2021 11:19 AM

It’s the alternative to admitting that 40 years of ill-advised government social engineering has failed horribly.

McLovin 08-12-2021 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 11422374)
If everyone is made equal at the finish line, why bother to run?

Notice that we’re having fewer runners.

McLovin 08-12-2021 11:27 AM

There are many people, including some here, who believe the government should use the labor of working citizens to pay for, at a minimum, complementary housing, food, education, transportation and healthcare to every person who would rather not work and provide for themselves.

McLovin 08-12-2021 11:28 AM

They used to be called welfare or entitlements, but now some go as far as to say those are “rights.”

sammyg2 08-12-2021 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by McLovin (Post 11422384)
Notice that we’re having fewer runners.

Too many are getting paid to be spectators.

McLovin 08-12-2021 11:44 AM

Spectators? That would require showing up on time and watching.
Sounds dangerously like work.

look 171 08-12-2021 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by McLovin (Post 11422369)
It’s about “equity.”

That means if a certain racial group doesn’t achieve well at something or is disinterested in it (high school proficiency, SAT scores, etc) that thing must be eliminated.

I laughed when they included the Asians in there. They have always done very well in academics but to be PC, they are now clumped into this group.

CalPersFatCat 08-12-2021 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 11422374)
If everyone is made equal at the finish line, why bother to run?

There is no equality at the finish line.

Never has been. Never will be.

This is likely a warning shot to employers.

"all of these job applicants are equally qualified as evidenced by this high school diploma that all of these job applicants possess."

"yet, you (the employer) have failed to hire demographic X at a rate equal to demographic WHITE."

DL

McLovin 08-12-2021 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11422509)
I laughed when they included the Asians in there. They have always done very well in academics but to be PC, they are now clumped into this group.

In the US Asians have historically been unencumbered by government “help”.

But other racial groups and the media are trying hard to drag Asians into the “systemic racism” victim camp. See, e.g., “Stop Asian Hate” campaigns every time there is even a single random act of violence that happens to involve an Asian.

Hopefully Asians continue to resist that.

look 171 08-12-2021 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by McLovin (Post 11422548)
In the US Asians have historically been unencumbered by government “help”.

But other racial groups and the media are trying hard to drag Asians into the “systemic racism” victim camp. See, e.g., “Stop Asian Hate” campaigns every time there is even a single random act of violence that happens to involve an Asian.

Hopefully Asians continue to resist that.

I see many of the younger ones have drunk the cool-aid and are singing the same damn song. Hate the white or the establishment.

I have been saying this for a number of years now. Its not racial, its social economics. Who's the next successful group, I think many are already in the upper middle class segment? Yep, you got it, so they are the next targeted group. I think its already happenning. Look at the BS they are spilling in education about not having this or that group for the top schools in NYC. " we have too many Asians" and yet its all based on merit not skin color. Yep they are trying hard to pull then into it.

McLovin 08-12-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11422583)
I see many of the younger ones have drunk the cool-aid and are singing the same damn song. Hate the white or the establishment.

Yes, I’ve seen it too, the colleges are working on them and it’s hard for kids to resist. Not be “popular,” etc. It’s a lot of pressure.
Ironically, I don’t think their (current college age Asians) kids are going to succeed as much as they did. They won’t grow up with the same values.

look 171 08-12-2021 02:46 PM

You know, like everything else, it takes a few generations to rid of the hard working, blast through no matter what the circumstances and keep on marching forward mentality. Sad to see it go away.

I know a Vietnamese young man that was dumped somewhere in TX, came to CA to meet up with family that he had not seen in 10 years and survived in a hell hole of an apt. Worked his way up at the dealership and now his kids owns a very successful toyota specific repair shop with 7 employee. Yep, he's my toyota mechanic. Those people went through hell and arrived on our shores with just a shirt on his back. His other daughter is cardiologist now. If the system is racist, why the hell would his family make it into upper class America? it pisses me off that the left or media drags these people into the same group and tries to brain wash them.

I ahve teenagers in the house. I am not sure how to instill that old fashion hard working mentality into them. I am afraid I may fail them.

Tervuren 08-12-2021 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11422305)
A high school degree means nothing.

Stop and think a moment about what high school is.

It should be the hymilayas of education.
With a high school degree, there should not be much else to climb higher.
It is the culmination of 12+ years of education.

A930Rocket 08-12-2021 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11422140)
bad link — avoid.

With that post, I had to click on it. WHOA! 😳

drcoastline 08-13-2021 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11422305)
Why does this matter? Who hires a high school grad based on their academic abilities? A high school degree means nothing.

Apparently my high school diploma is more valuable then my wife's four year degree.

porsche tech 08-13-2021 05:28 AM

The Asian people I have known are some of the hardest working people I’ve ever met (regardless of how much education they have).

1990C4S 08-13-2021 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 11423056)
Apparently my high school diploma is more valuable then my wife's four year degree.

Perhaps not everyone will notice something buried here. I can wait...

pwd72s 08-13-2021 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11423247)
Perhaps not everyone will notice something buried here. I can wait...

You mean that a high school degree of 50 years ago is worth more in terms of useful knowledge than many college degrees today? I tend to agree with that...

1990C4S 08-13-2021 08:21 AM

Nope. And I don't agree with that assessment unless you're talking about a terrible college...


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