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bourgeois911 08-19-2021 06:06 AM

A few years back I had several Jalapeno and Habanero plants in my garden which were doing very well until one day I went to pick some and the plants were almost bare. I found a GIANT caterpillar which I later found was a tomato hornworm and this single big green maggot ate all of these caustic peppers by itself. Can't imagine the digestive system on these things. This was also in Ohio which is apparently the new Australia as far as weird damaging critters are concerned.

cabmandone 08-19-2021 06:09 AM

Did ya squish it? Those things explode!

bourgeois911 08-19-2021 06:18 AM

Yep, lots of disgusting goo in that thing.

masraum 08-19-2021 06:29 AM

I learned as a kid that unless you want to have to clean up after something that looks like a nickelodeon kid's show, don't squash caterpillars. Most are basically like tiny, delicate water ballons full of green goo.

GH85Carrera 08-19-2021 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11430033)
I learned as a kid that unless you want to have to clean up after something that looks like a nickelodeon kid's show, don't squash caterpillars. Most are basically like tiny, delicate water ballons full of green goo.

Yep, squash them in the grass not the sidewalk. Assuming you have grass where you live. Or do it in the street.

My wife is a Master Gardener and we have flowers planted in every available spot, and in new flower beds that were in the yard before, and potted plants on the porches and just everywhere. I end up making new flower beds in the yard every year. Less to mow, more to use the string trimer on.

She has a vine planted at the edge of the driveway that is climbing along the fence. It is covered in Fritillary butterflies, and it is a real orgy out there. There are over two dozen caterpillars and eggs everywhere. Several chrysalises and the leaves and flowers of the vine and are disappearing. We have monarchs on the other plants she put out and of course the humming birds and bees and bumble bees everywhere.

We have many of the people out for a walk with the dog tells us they make a point to come by here just to see the gardens in the front of the house.

Zeke 08-19-2021 06:56 AM

People complain about the conditions of living in the inner city in SoCal. Well, no snakes or strange wildlife here. Even the birds are gone. A few fleas but I've got a dozen or more lizards that showed up a few years ago after the coyotes ate all the outside cats. I guess the lizards eat so well that there is nothing left for the birds.

A possum ate some of my tomatoes so I electrified the cages. No more problem. I use a 12v car battery on a solar charger and a coil. Keeps the occasional racoon away too. We have squirrels as of about 4 years ago so very few rats. Just have to keep the attic vents in good shape for both.

I do have black widows but I know where they are and they only come out at night so I let them be. The lizards eat them with no effect if they can get to them.

So nothing crawls up my legs and I'm good with that.

Mosquitos are on the decline. No water, no mosquitos. The city has done a good job of warning about West Nile so only the ignorant have bird baths and other stupid things that allow breeding. Haven't seen a wasp in a year and hardly any bees.

In fact the only things in the air are 400 to 500 air operations from the local airport every day from 7am to 7 pm. Even keeps the seagulls down at the beach 8 miles away. Planes fly about 300 feet over my house every day. I know, I see the live flight data on the Internet. Most are at the min of 500' and average about 80dB (I have an expensive dB meter) so I assume that drives a lot of wildlife away. During what I call "happy hour" (lunch hour and again at 5 pm) the planes average 20 to 30 seconds between flyovers.

I wonder if that affects caterpillars. ;):D

GH85Carrera 08-19-2021 07:02 AM

My wife grew up in Enid, OK. Home of Vance AFB. It is a pilot training center. Monday to Friday if the weather is good, the flights are constant.

In high school in speech class she said the teacher had a stop watch. If a speech was to be a fixed length of time, she would stop the watch as a plane flew over, and the speaker stopped, and started as the noise was down. There could be four interruptions in a single short speech.

It was the sound of money as they flew overhead. Everyone just accepted it. That base kept Enid alive in the tough times of oil busts.

Zeke 08-19-2021 07:20 AM

Yeah, there are some schools under the various flight paths that have to stop momentarily several times a day. They are more under commercial jet traffic whereas I'm under the general aviation path that serves student touch and goes. In total, LGB has over 700 operations per day. It's closed at 10 pm to commercial traffic.

But this is a thread about insects, particularly caterpillars, so I was serious about the affect of so much noise. I live a mile from the 405 freeway and can hear that at night when its more still. The city itself is so noisy I don't hear anything specific during the day unless it's a Harley or an emergency vehicle. I hear gunshots several times a week.

Gotta have an affect on living things other than humans.

GH85Carrera 08-19-2021 07:31 AM

Much of it is the water situation, and lack of rain. Fewer people with elaborate watered lawns, less habitat for critters. Noise and humans moving about keep the critters away as well.

There are multiple horse farms of 40+ acres within a mile of me. One farm is 80 acres, and one guy has a 120 acres estate that looks like a city park and he has his own 10 acre pond. Lots of critters around here. We have a lot of cardinals, bluebirds and recently a new family of Mississippi Kites. They have been feasting on the bunnies and mice and even the cicadas. The deer are thick in the area just south of me.

thor66 08-19-2021 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11429652)
He was headed that way but I stopped him short. :)

Good thing or you might have been in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1F0lBnsnkE

billybek 08-19-2021 06:03 PM

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That was pretty enjoyable but nothing like my reaction would have been if the caterpillar was climbing north from my knees...

fred cook 08-20-2021 02:15 AM

They are in Georgia also...............
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11429527)
Alternate title: I've got a caterpillar in my pants!

that we have "venomous" caterpillars in Ohio. How it happened I have no idea! But two days ago, I felt this twitching at my ankle. I wrote it off as just a nerve twitch that I get once in a while due to a lingering back issue. But then it feels like it's moving up my calf. I'm thinking... damn spider!.. I pat my pantleg down and out falls this friggin green caterpillar with long black things on its back. I freak out! How the hell did that get there!? Then I freak out more because my leg is starting to itch and tingle a bit.

I bag that sucker and text my wife. She says "take a Benadryl". So after I do that I go online to look up what the hell just bit/stung me. I find out it's an American Dagger Caterpillar. Now I'm looking into whether the things are dangerous. Luckily I find out they just cause irritation, as in a pretty good rash that I now have on my calf. 50 years and 10 days... Who knew there were venomous caterpillars in Ohio??

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1629330395.jpg

They are in North Georgia also. They tend to live in tall grasses and will jump off onto your clothes as you walk thru. The ones we have here have 3 sets of "Y" shaped stingers on their backs and go by the name "Packsaddles". Each of the 6 barbs can cause a painful sting. How do I know? I got one on my jeans one day and did not notice it until I sat down and laid a bare forearm down on top of it. Fortunately I had some sting ampules in the car and was able to treat the wound area right away. Even so I wound up with a scar on that forearm! They look all cute and fuzzy but pack a powerful punch!


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