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herr_oberst 08-31-2021 06:51 PM

6000 pound capacity, so you could potentially stack both Porsches and the VW and lift away!

I'm purty jellyass looking at your 'scene'. It's a mean scene.

wdfifteen 08-31-2021 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11443822)
6000 pound capacity, so you could potentially stack both Porsches and the VW and lift away!

I'm purty jellyass looking at your 'scene'. It's a mean scene.

LOL! No way its ever going to see more than 3200 lbs. Glad you're jelly, (is that a Bhi Bhiman reference by any chance? "Don't be jelly, that's my bread and butter...":))

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wdfifteen 08-31-2021 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 11443786)
I'm more than slightly disappointed that Mrs. WD wasn't called in to aid installation and model the lift.

She aided in the installation for sure. Keep watching this thread for possible modeling of the new machinery.

https://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/1084478-just-throwing-these-out-there-3.html

WPOZZZ 08-31-2021 07:29 PM

Is that the same lift that Costco sells?

Drbraunsr 08-31-2021 07:42 PM

Been using mine for 5+ years now and I lift the car just so I don't have to bend over so much (in addition to crawling underneath). I'm old and tall...
A few things: mine had a slight chatter. Cat hyd oil sells an additive that gets rid of it.
For those intermediate heights that don't fit the slide bars, use a couple of jackstands. One blown hose and you and your car will be happy you did. I bought drip-less hydraulic fittings from another company (a decadent touch).
You'll love love love having a lift. Enjoy

Baz 08-31-2021 07:54 PM

I'm going to be changing the plugs on my tub soon......and now am thinking I need one of these so I don't have to lean over so much! :D

I also have new shifter bushing and boots coming. But a jack isn't going to help much with that job.....

Thanks for answering our questions, Patrick.

This is one of the better threads we've had in a while.

Seriously.

Stay safe, please!

gordner 09-01-2021 08:25 AM

I thought the advantage of the max jack was portability? Given it is bolted in, what made you chose that system?
Just curiousity, my atlas two post asymmetrical is good for 12k pounds, and only ran me about 2200 CAD new.

gordner 09-01-2021 08:27 AM

On a different note, the guys above make a valid point, I use my lift more on the Porsche to lift it up and work on the engine comfortably from above than I do to take it high and work the underside. Super improvement on the back standing comfortably with the engine not below your waist.

1990C4S 09-01-2021 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11443531)
The holes for the floor plate mounting bolts all had this slot. I'm assuming it had something to do with manufacturing, as I don't know of an engineering reason to do this.

That's where they start the flame cut I think...

Did the kit come with the anchors?

wdfifteen 09-01-2021 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by gordner (Post 11444400)
I thought the advantage of the max jack was portability? Given it is bolted in, what made you chose that system?

I chose it so that when I don't expect to be using it I can unbolt one or both of the lifts and stack them against the wall in order to have more parking space.
The anchors came with the kit.

Bob Kontak 09-01-2021 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11444483)
I chose it so that when I don't expect to be using it I can unbolt one or both of the lifts and stack them against the wall in order to have more parking space.
The anchors came with the kit.

Could the Speedster fit underneath the coupe? Sorry if already discussed.

gordner 09-01-2021 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11444483)
I chose it so that when I don't expect to be using it I can unbolt one or both of the lifts and stack them against the wall in order to have more parking space.
The anchors came with the kit.

Ah, that makes sense. I made the assumption it was on studs like mine not bolts. Mine I could move without a ton of effort, but I would have a bunch of dangerous studs sticking up out of the floor.

wdfifteen 09-01-2021 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11444585)
Could the Speedster fit underneath the coupe? Sorry if already discussed.

Yes,but if I'm going to park something under a car it would most likely be a golf cart or lawnmower. Old cars leak.

fred cook 09-01-2021 05:04 PM

Max Jax
 
I installed one of these a few years ago. I decided that I wanted something more solid than a 4" slab to anchor it to so I cut out a large H shaped area, dug down about 3 feet, layed in some rebar and then poured the hole with high strength concrete. The lift will pick up 6,000 lbs and the base insert weighs a bit more than that. The way it is installed I can use it to pickup any vehicle I own without worrying about anything coming loose. I realize that what I did is probably overkill but I sure feel safe working under it!

wdfifteen 09-02-2021 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fred cook (Post 11445153)
I installed one of these a few years ago. I decided that I wanted something more solid than a 4" slab to anchor it to so I cut out a large H shaped area, dug down about 3 feet, layed in some rebar and then poured the hole with high strength concrete. The lift will pick up 6,000 lbs and the base insert weighs a bit more than that. The way it is installed I can use it to pickup any vehicle I own without worrying about anything coming loose. I realize that what I did is probably overkill but I sure feel safe working under it!

I planned for this when I had the building built and told the contractor I wanted at least 6” of 5000 lb concrete. I thought he would form up a rectangle that was deeper in the area of the lift. Nope. He just scooped out a trough tha is 12” deep in the center and tapers up to the regular 4” slab depth. He said the extra concrete was cheaper than wood for the forms and the labor for building and placing it.

svandamme 09-03-2021 04:09 AM

I have a single post, cost me 2500 euro
It's full height, my garage isn't , but it's movable, and when not used, takes up no space in the middle

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1630670934.jpg


I have a trolley cart/seat so it's really just as easy to work on as full height
if need be, can roll it outside and go full height there.
no anchor bolts needed
it's self balanced, perfectly stable

slapped on an LED strip to the pole so plenty of light now

Drbraunsr 09-03-2021 05:23 AM

The MaxJax portability is one thing, another is -- for low height garage ceilings.

svandamme 09-03-2021 06:52 AM

if i push the button long enough, I can raise the ceiling
(not really installed an IR sensor on a kill switch)

wdfifteen 09-07-2021 06:27 AM

After installing the Max Jax and using it I really like the machine. It would have saved probably an hour of installation time if the instructions hadn't been so screwed up. So I sent the company a note letting them know what I thought of their instructions:


I have installed my Max Jax M6K and used it to raise a couple of cars. I just wanted to say a few words about the assembly instructions.
The quality of the machine itself seems to be adequate, but the assembly instructions provided with the lift leave a lot to be desired. It is critical to operator safety that this sort of product be assembled and used correctly, and I wonder why you didn’t put more effort into providing clear and thorough assembly instructions.

The paper instructions that came with the Max Jax were not clear, appear to have incorrect information, and the accompanying photos are blurry and difficult to make out.

In the end, in order to get the Max Jax assembled and functioning I had to use two sets of instructions, the the paper instructions that came with the lift (Rev A – September 2020) and a set of instructions that I found on line (https://www.maxjax.com/pub/media/downloads/MaxJax-Two-Post-Lift-Installation-Manual.pdf). The two sets of instructions gave conflicting information in key areas. I made it work, but not without a lot of extra time, effort, and guesswork.

1. In spite of the instructions saying the male quick-connect fitting will fit through the rectangular hole in the frame after the plumbing fittings were assembled to the cylinder I was unable to get it through the hole and had to remove it and reinstall it. It later leaked and I had to remove and install the whole assembly again.
2. Your instruction manuals describe two different ways of bleeding the cylinders. Either run the cylinders up and then open the bleeder screw or open the bleeder first and then run the cylinder up. Are the two methods equivalent, or is one better than the other?
3. Also, there is confusion about the flow divider. Page 29 of the paper instructions that came with the lift is a TSB (TSB69-082828) that states categorically that the flow divider sent with my lift will not work if installed as described in the instructions. First, why would you send a part with the lift if you know it will not work? If I followed the TSB the supplied inlet hose would not be long enough to reach the IN port. Based on the information found in the on-line instructions I ignored the TSB and installed it as shown on page 28 of the paper instructions and in the on line instructions. The machine works fine. Why would you not take the time to make sure the instructions match the machine they accompany?
4. Finally, the paper instructions show photos of one configuration for installing the springs for the safety latch while the on-line instructions show a different way. Installing the springs as per the blurry photo in the paper instruction seems to be the only way to make the safety latch work properly, but I may be wrong. Can you clarify? This is a safety item and I want to be sure it is assembled correctly.
Thank you for your time.

aschen 09-07-2021 08:06 AM

Product support is bad. They treat it as a consumer product that anybody with access to a rotary hammer can install. That is true to some degree but there is alot of nuance they gloss by.

For example, I am pretty sure putting shims under the front bolt increases the loading on the anchors by a factor of around 3. The reaction moment arm length to support the load is substantially reduced if the front of the plate is above the floor. I could chalk it up to my imagination, except they used to show their factor of safety calculations on the site which showed the full width of the front plate dimension in the calculation. Worried me enough that I did not use the shims.

When you buy the epoxy anchor kit, they say you need 5" of slab depth, well the anchors are 6" long. I had my slab scanned and it is right about 6" deep. I called them to enquire and was told to jam coffee filters in the hole if I drill though. The anchors are not designed for 5" holes, they are designed for blind holes for the epoxy to be forced up the annulus as well. I am sure this is all overdesigned but "did you try the coffee filter trick" is a bit worrisome to me.


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