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Chocaholic 09-08-2021 04:33 AM

4wd needed at boat ramp?
 
Bought a luxury car last year thinking I’d be back to weekly travel (2 hour drive to/from Atlanta airport). Well, that’s not happening, thankfully. Being more home-bound, considering trading it on a new Tacoma as I have no need for a full sized truck and it’ll tow 6200 lbs. And no other vehicle seems to hold its value better. Used ones cost as much or more than new these days.

But...new ones are scarce. Local dealer has what I want, but only in 2wd. Granted they have limited slip diffs, but still a bit concerned about pulling our tritoon out of the lake for service, etc.

Long story short...should I hold out for 4wd...could be a while, and that’s ok...or is 2wd goind to be adequate?

id10t 09-08-2021 04:40 AM

Depends on the ramp you use.....

The ramp where I go fishing has no slippery mud and the rise over run is less than 1:12 ... hardly a ramp, I've actually seen someone in a wheel chair wheel up and down it.

There is another ramp that I've been to on the Santa Fe river where I actually walk down next to the ramp on the dirt, using switch backs. Drops 10 feet in about 10 feet of travel. Never seen someone actually try to launch a boat off a trailer there, most are using kayaks/canoes/SUPs and tote 'em down to the water.

wilnj 09-08-2021 04:42 AM

Not sure what your ramp looks like but my concern would be what happens when the bottom of the ramp is slick?

I’ve seen trailer setups with a tongue extension (typically for a sailboat). That might enable you to keep the tires on dry ground but I would hate to see you on one of those boat ramp bloopers videos on YouTube.

pavulon 09-08-2021 04:43 AM

2wd "park" and E-brakes are a trap on steep, mossy concrete.

Chocaholic 09-08-2021 04:55 AM

Yup....visited some of the boating forums also. Many say 2wd is fine, especially in fresh water, concrete ramps (like ours)...and then someone posts a horror story. I honestly have no need whatsoever for 4wd except for once a year boat service. I tend to think 4wd might pay for itself come resale time too. Guess I’ll hold out.

wilnj 09-08-2021 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 11451282)
Yup....visited some of the boating forums also. Many say 2wd is fine, especially in fresh water, concrete ramps (like ours)...and then someone posts a horror story. I honestly have no need whatsoever for 4wd except for once a year boat service. I tend to think 4wd might pay for itself come resale time too. Guess I’ll hold out.


If it’s any consolation, the hype on Toyota trucks is warranted. I drove my brothers 7 year old, 170,000 mile tundra with the no ***ks given V8 and it pulled strong. No squeaks or rattles inside or out. And the last 50,000 were in fleet service.

911 Rod 09-08-2021 05:17 AM

You don't need it until you do.

Chocaholic 09-08-2021 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 11451307)
You don't need it until you do.

Ha! Guess that sums it up.

Agreed. Better to have it and not need it than the other way around.

Seahawk 09-08-2021 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 11451307)
You don't need it until you do.

Yup.

Make sure you get the locking center differential...TRD model for Toyota.

I won't tow without 4x4 based on many, many years of experience with horse trailers on wet grass, hay fields, boat ramps, gravel pits, flat bed towing with a tractor load, etc.

cabmandone 09-08-2021 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 11451282)
Yup....visited some of the boating forums also. Many say 2wd is fine, especially in fresh water, concrete ramps (like ours)...and then someone posts a horror story. I honestly have no need whatsoever for 4wd except for once a year boat service. I tend to think 4wd might pay for itself come resale time too. Guess I’ll hold out.

Not "might".... will. If resale is a consideration I'd hold out for the 4wd. And do you "need" 4wd at the ramp? Probably not... but isn't it nice knowing if you need it you have it? It's kinda like me up here in OH. Do I really "need" 4wd or AWD.. Not for the most part but when I do need it, it's damn nice having it.

911 Rod 09-08-2021 05:34 AM

And there is a reason the dealer only has a 2 wheel drive left.

Dantilla 09-08-2021 05:34 AM

Get a 4x4.
You will never say: "Gee I wish this was a two wheel drive".

My truck has manual front hubs. I will often use low range without locking the hubs just for the low gearing when climbing up the ramp.
Damp ramp? Lock the hubs.

3rd_gear_Ted 09-08-2021 05:42 AM

If the boat has a dual engines the leverage when the hull comes out of the water is substantial. I've seen big time wheel spin @ Site six Lake Havasu AZ.

BTW, people line the docks there in the afternoon to watch boats get pulled out of the water and have problems. Crowd goes crazy and you are all over Facebook & YouTube. You use that ramp, you best have your act together.

vash 09-08-2021 05:50 AM

No not needed. Someone with a 4x4 should be available to help ease you up an algae slick boat ramp.

That stuff is ice slick. It’s where I fall down.

Rusty Heap 09-08-2021 06:13 AM

4x4 all the way.

Bugsinrugs 09-08-2021 06:31 AM

It’s like insurance. You carry it for what might happen.

javadog 09-08-2021 06:45 AM

Don’t wait until you have a problem before engaging four-wheel-drive on a boat ramp. Do it before you back down the ramp. Have help, so that someone is in the vehicle with a foot on the brakes the whole time.

Or end up on YouTube.

Back where I used to live, there are a lot of smaller lakes that didn’t have a huge amount of activity and you might find you were the only vehicle at the boat ramp at any given time.

flipper35 09-08-2021 08:07 AM

I knew a girl that had to call a tow truck because her 2wd vehicle got pulled out into the water. All you could see was the antenna ball. Of course, it may have been the fact that it was an AMC Gremlin and not that it was 2wd.

ckelly78z 09-08-2021 08:24 AM

I have seen so many people get stuck on wet/slippery ramps, it makes a good commercial for 4x4. I have also been in a low water level situation where the tires of the boat trailer dropped off the end of the ramp, and without 4x4, I would have needed help.

908/930 09-08-2021 08:36 AM

Keep in mind pick up trucks are pretty light over the rear axle, I have spun the tires on my 7000lb 2500hd with LSD pulling my friends 4500lb boat & trailer up a ramp, I usually put it into 4wd low range with no prob then. Yes hold out for 4wd.


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