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Steve Carlton 09-17-2021 08:33 PM

The Permaplate reps were usually sporting nice rigs.

pmax 09-17-2021 08:37 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1631939817.jpg

How much is this one ?

WPOZZZ 09-17-2021 10:03 PM

Imagine if car manufacturers went direct and cut out the middleman, just like the airlines cut out travel agents.

Steve Carlton 09-17-2021 10:41 PM

Check with cockerpunk. He knows all about it.

javadog 09-18-2021 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11460454)
Vaguely remember the black Prelude, too. What year model was that?

Do you think you were rewarded for not taking the markups with loyalty later on? I know markups piss people off, but there is the supply and demand thing. Dealers get beat up to give stuff away all the time, often losing money, or running a sales department that relies on parts and service to carry the day. Then, of course, dealers get beat up for their parts and service departments.

I don’t remember. ‘86, ‘87, ‘88…. Somewhere in there.

As for customer loyalty, it didn’t exist. I learned that customers would sell their mother to save $50. That’s one of the things that soured me to the entire business. Dealers have a bad reputation with the public, what the public doesn’t understand is that the customers are far worse. If you spend enough time in the business, you’ll understand what I mean.

javadog 09-18-2021 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 11460524)

$1,000,000.

Contact Mike Gilbert.

red-beard 09-18-2021 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11460401)
I remember this was the rage in 1989, especially the highline versions.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1631926106.jpg

Back in 1989, the then Mrs. Beard needed a new car. I had it down to:

Ford Taurus SHO
Mazda MX-5
Honda Prelude 4WS
And there was something else

The SHO was selling for $10K over sticker and the dealer wouldn't do a test drive without a signed contract!

The MX-5 was only available to order and there was a huge wait.

The Prelude, they were willing to deal. I ended up buying the Prelude. Bright red with Black interior.

http://www.2040-cars.com/_content/ca...297682/001.jpg

drcoastline 09-18-2021 04:39 AM

I never have this problem, I buy used, let someone else take the hit.

pavulon 09-18-2021 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11460518)
The original 240Z and Miata were sold over MSRP, I believe.

So were these. Shortly after she took delivery, a gal I worked with was offered $10K more than she paid. As evidenced by the recent used car market, some people can't get rid of money fast enough.

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HardDrive 09-18-2021 05:39 AM

This whole thing is absurd. They did not have a contract! The dealer is free to sell them at whatever price they want. Don’t want to pay? Move on.

masraum 09-18-2021 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 11460625)
I never have this problem, I buy used, let someone else take the hit.

Yep.

Steve Carlton 09-18-2021 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 11460631)
So did these. Shortly after she took delivery, a gal I worked with was offered $10K more than she paid. As evidenced by the recent used car market, some people can't get rid of money fast enough.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1631970192.jpg

Yes- the PT Cruiser was selling for $3-5k over MSRP when it came out. I heard the Chevy version was internally called the "Me Too Cruiser."

speeder 09-18-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 11460653)
This whole thing is absurd. They did not have a contract! The dealer is free to sell them at whatever price they want. Don’t want to pay? Move on.

This. ^^^

And unless you have an issue with dealers discounting off of MSRP over the years, it's hypocritical to be against dealer mark-ups on hot models. Apparently, some people do not know what the "S" in MSRP refers to.

javadog 09-18-2021 10:59 AM

It is a bit ****ty, to negotiate a deal far in advance of production and then not honor it. If, and I say IF, that’s what really happened. Other than that, the market price is the market price, pay it or quit whining.

Steve Carlton 09-18-2021 11:30 AM

I can't imagine any Ford dealer agreeing to sell the good Bronco for MSRP in advance.

Zeke 09-18-2021 12:06 PM

Reminds me of the '89 Speedster. I know a guy that paid way over sticker thinking he was gonna make a killing. Lost has ass. Kept it a wee too long which wasn't long at all.

masraum 09-18-2021 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11460703)
Yes- the PT Cruiser was selling for $3-5k over MSRP when it came out.

which is shocking

Steve Carlton 09-18-2021 02:03 PM

Months later it was below invoice. The bloom came off that rose fast.

pmax 09-18-2021 09:14 PM

Yay


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sc_rufctr 09-19-2021 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11460948)
Reminds me of the '89 Speedster. I know a guy that paid way over sticker thinking he was gonna make a killing. Lost has ass. Kept it a wee too long which wasn't long at all.

Maybe not long enough? What would an 89 Speedster be worth today?


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