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ramonesfreak 09-19-2021 05:15 PM

Lynyrd Skynyrd netflix doc
 
never was a huge fan of the band. watched it anyway and glad i did. highly recommended.

William930t 09-19-2021 07:04 PM

I haven't seen the Netflix documentary but I hope tells the story in depth

Growing up in Jacksonville's Westside from late 60's-70's, I followed the band because they were cool, made the news, friends of older friends, and put out some relevant music to the times. My RPDS school bus drove right by the Leonard Skinner Realty office daily. Skinner was the by-the rules gym teacher at Lee High School that didn't take a liking to the long haired boys, saying they wouldn't amount to anything. He later became a realtor. The making of the band is really a great story. Ronnie, Alan, Gary, Leon and Billy had incredible talent from the start. Later with Artimus on drums and the addition in 1976 of Steve Gaines the band was headed to incredible stardom. Everything changed the night of October 20, 1977, THE plane crash. Simply a huge tragedy and loss. Survivors said it was over, nothing heard for 10 years. Then a loose reformation and a 1987 tribute tour that's still going. Johnny Van Zant does his best to honor his older brother's legacy. Many original members have since died off, and remaining ones are bickering. One thing is for sure, in the short time of 1973 to 1977, they still have be considered one of the greatest Southern rock bands of all time! Neat fact: I didn't know it until after the crash that my father was family physician/cardiologist to parents Lacy and Marion Van Zant, made me even more of a fan.

Some of the live material is better that the studio cuts, here is my current favorite:

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Ayles 09-19-2021 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11461931)
never was a huge fan of the band. watched it anyway and glad i did. highly recommended.

In a simial vein I’d recommend the twisted sister documentary.

ramonesfreak 09-19-2021 07:27 PM

it covered the history pretty well. it’s not as in depth as the tom petty runnin down a dream doc but i think that’s because LS was so short lived…there’s only so much story that can be told. a few thing that came across to me, these guys were young and amazingly talented and tighter than i ever knew….and, they have way more good music than i realized…..i never disliked them. they were always just a radio band to me. always there. they weren’t the allman brothers. however, i’ll be picking up their records soon as it’s obvious there’s way more to them than the radio hits

William930t 09-19-2021 07:32 PM

Another Skynyrd deep cut, powerful message for the time

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stomachmonkey 09-19-2021 07:39 PM

Was always a huge fan.

Talented band.

I am pretty annoyed they continue to tour.

Rossington is the only founding member left and he's been ill this year so not even on the current tour.

It's a glorified cover band at this point and has been for a long time now.

ckissick 09-19-2021 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11462004)
it covered the history pretty well. it’s not as in depth as the tom petty runnin down a dream doc but i think that’s because LS was so short lived…there’s only so much story that can be told. a few thing that came across to me, these guys were young and amazingly talented and tighter than i ever knew….and, they have way more good music than i realized…..i never disliked them. they were always just a radio band to me. always there. they weren’t the allman brothers. however, i’ll be picking up their records soon as it’s obvious there’s way more to them than the radio hits

Very good documentary. It said early on that most people weren't really familiar with much beyond Free Bird and Sweet Home Alabama. Just as you just said in so many words. I knew all the songs and liked most of them very much. They were of the few bands I listened to when not listening to the good ol' GD.

dmcummins 09-20-2021 02:36 AM

I saw them July 4, 1976, in Memphis. Along with ZZ Top, blue oyster cult, and the outlaws. Great show. At least what I can remember.

herr_oberst 09-20-2021 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11462004)
a few thing that came across to me, these guys were young and amazingly talented and tighter than i ever knew….

I remember having this same revelation when I started listening to Janes Addiction about five years after they had success. Young and extremely talented. I digress.

Back to Lynyrd, boy-howdy they could craft an intro to just hook you and pull you right in.
The guitar army !

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ramonesfreak 09-20-2021 05:40 AM

Been a big Janes's fan since 1990. Saw them in 1990 and 2009. It was cool to see Stephen Perkins featured in the new drumming documentary on Netflix. He is incredible playing along with The Who. intense.

astrochex 09-20-2021 06:26 AM

I have always enjoyed their music.

I did see the band when they toured after the crash. IIRC, Rossington was in a wheelchair. It was a memorable show. Unfortunately, Johnny is not nearly the singer that Ronnie was.

I recently picked up Street Survivors on vinyl, with the original artwork. A great, great album.

Tidybuoy 09-20-2021 09:14 AM

I enjoyed the documentary and have been a fan since the 70's.

One thing I will say that I think showed well in the documentary.....They are true showmen. When I saw them in concert many years ago, they did a 1 hour encore. It was as if they did not want to stop playing and I definitely got my money's worth.

Racerbvd 09-20-2021 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William930t (Post 11461994)
I haven't seen the Netflix documentary but I hope tells the story in depth

Growing up in Jacksonville's Westside from late 60's-70's, I followed the band because they were cool, made the news, friends of older friends, and put out some relevant music to the times. My RPDS school bus drove right by the Leonard Skinner Realty office daily. Skinner was the by-the rules gym teacher at Lee High School that didn't take a liking to the long haired boys, saying they wouldn't amount to anything. He later became a realtor. The making of the band is really a great story. Ronnie, Alan, Gary, Leon and Billy had incredible talent from the start. Later with Artimus on drums and the addition in 1976 of Steve Gaines the band was headed to incredible stardom. Everything changed the night of October 20, 1977, THE plane crash. Simply a huge tragedy and loss. Survivors said it was over, nothing heard for 10 years. Then a loose reformation and a 1987 tribute tour that's still going. Johnny Van Zant does his best to honor his older brother's legacy. Many original members have since died off, and remaining ones are bickering. One thing is for sure, in the short time of 1973 to 1977, they still have be considered one of the greatest Southern rock bands of all time! Neat fact: I didn't know it until after the crash that my father was family physician/cardiologist to parents Lacy and Marion Van Zant, made me even more of a fan.

Some of the live material is better that the studio cuts, here is my current favorite:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/l886uQi6Rhg" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I went to school right across the street from Riverside Presp.Day school.
As a kid, I wasn't a fan, even though (and he may have been in the special, he was in the Showtime one) my cousin Billy was Ronnie's best friend from little league until the crash, they even flew him up with them when they were inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He feels guilty because Ronnie wanted him to be the road manager before the crash. Ronnie would listen to him, so he feels that he could have delayed the flight.
They are buried near our family plot, so when I go to visit my Grandmother and Great Aunt (Billy's mother) I pay my respects.
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The old places http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1632171232.jpg
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ckcarr 09-20-2021 04:07 PM

I watched that. What it told me was that music can come from anywhere.. Poor kids in the south, not highly educated, but had the music in their heads. They put out a masterpiece with Freebird.

Maybe you had to live through the 60's and 70's - be a little older to appreciate them fully, or Allman Brothers "Jessica." Even the Outlaws "Green Grass and High Tides" They just don't make songs like that anymore...

As they like to say "Music is the soundtrack of our lives." And many artists lives are pretty fleeting, here today, gone tomorrow.

I did a lot of drinking to that music back then.

greglepore 09-20-2021 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dmcummins (Post 11462087)
I saw them July 4, 1976, in Memphis. Along with ZZ Top, blue oyster cult, and the outlaws. Great show. At least what I can remember.

Yeah. Jfk stadium, philly, junior in hs. Hotter 'n hell. J geils, Skynard, and ...Peter Frampton.

If y'all want an interesting take on the story, the Drive By Trucker's Southern Rock Opera is pretty much an ode to Skynard, without being obsequious. Check out "Shut your mouth and get your azz on the plane' which pretty much is true to what Ronnie said to Cassie before...

Racerbvd 09-20-2021 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckcarr (Post 11462964)
I watched that. What it told me was that music can come from anywhere.. Poor kids in the south, not highly educated, but had the music in their heads. They put out a masterpiece with Freebird.

Maybe you had to live through the 60's and 70's - be a little older to appreciate them fully, or Allman Brothers "Jessica." Even the Outlaws "Green Grass and High Tides" They just don't make songs like that anymore...

As they like to say "Music is the soundtrack of our lives." And many artists lives are pretty fleeting, here today, gone tomorrow.

I did a lot of drinking to that music back then.

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William930t 09-20-2021 05:08 PM

Byron knows the above place well, the inspiration for "Gimme Three Steps". And the car that saved your life!

Racerbvd 09-20-2021 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by William930t (Post 11463013)
Byron knows the above place well, the inspiration for "Gimme Three Steps"

Actually, this isn't the actual Jug, this place is on Lenox, across from the old Normandy Mall.
Although, Gene Odom has it on his tours. The original one is long gone, but with this place being close to their homes so no doubt that they drank there, but it had a different name. ⁸

KFC911 09-20-2021 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by William930t (Post 11463013)
Byron knows the above place well, the inspiration for "Gimme Three Steps"

Except that wasn't it ;)... mebbe up at the corner of Edgewood & Post, but not that tiny hole-in-wall joint... been there more than a few times myself. A former Jax buddy (RIP Ronnie M) grew up on the other side of the back fence and lived there his whole life and that was HIS story. There is no dance floor .... barely enough room for the single pool table... a 1-step bar at best :D

KFC911 09-20-2021 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 11463025)
Actually, this isn't the actual Jug, this place is on Lenox, across from the old Normandy Mall.
Although, Gene Odom has it on his tours. The original one is long gone, but with this place being close to their homes so no doubt that they drank there, but it had a different name. ⁸

I think it was called The Past Time for decades... never really saw the front much... back fence... back door.


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